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To: The Antiyuppie,the_doc,oldglory,all
#32: "The world is NOT in a state of peace. We have lost 6,000 civilians in an act of war. There is no state of peace to be kept. I can't beleive that he said this."

Exactly! I didn't see your post before I said almost the same thing in my reply #34. :) BTTT

41 posted on 09/23/2001 4:55:07 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Peace is not the absence of war. It is the "presence" of something.)
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To: Matchett-PI,andysandmikesmom, Uriel1975, Jerry_M
Religion must never be used as a reason for conflict...

I do not specialize in Rome-bashing on this forum, but I do have to point out that the Pope is a spiritual idiot.

His remark misses the whole point of a just war. When others have religion as the reason for attacking us, our nation ought to respond with deadly force. If we don't do this, the religious extremists in Islam will destroy our nation.

"Turning the other cheek" has no application in this situation. The United States is not an individual, much less a Christian individual, suffering persecution for righteousness' sake. Furthermore, secular governments are ordained by God to restrain wickedness.

Read Romans 13:1-4 to see this.

According to any sensible reading of Romans 13:1-4, the United States must protect its citizens. The mindlessly unqualified, unscriptural pacifism advocated by the anti-American peacniks in Berkeley and Seattle reveals that these folks, in their abject ignorance, are the enemies of the United States. While they claim to be interested in our nation's overall health, they are actually a kind of fifth column of the forces of darkness.

In the same way, I am forced to conclude that Rome's unqualified, unscriptural pacifism makes Rome the enemy of the United States in an odd way. The Pope should not be broadcasting his asinine messages. (His recent remarks remind me of his knee-jerk stupidity concerning capital punishment, only worse!)

(I don't regard America's Roman Catholics as fifth columnists at this time, since they will largely ignore the Pope's stupid appeals. But I say that they need to quit ignoring his appeals. I say that they ought to denounce the Pope and leave Romanism.)

Lurkers are invited to visit www.bereanbeacon.org. It is the website of an ex-Catholic priest who now regards the Papacy as the enemy of America and enemy of God. (Of course, he never realized this in the 30 years he spent in the Dominican Order. He had always been taught that Protestants were the enemy of God!)

186 posted on 09/24/2001 10:07:12 AM PDT by the_doc
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