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To: JMJ333
I bothered to check your links.

The following is to be said.

1) EWTN does not have completely clean hands in promoting this crowd; a person or people writing Mother Angelica telling her their lives have been destroyed by indisputably phony mystics she promoted never got an answer back.

2)The second link emanates from people with pecuniary interests in the apparition industry, and wrongly states that the bishop spoke as a private person. He did so ex officio, and thus his "private opinion" is about as meaningful as that of Alan Greenspan's on inflation. Link #2 promotes Garabandal, and certified fraud.

The Zadar declaration was made at the beginning of a genocidal war in which Croatian nationalism, heavily promoted by the Med. crowd, played a crucial role.

The more one reads both sides of the story, the bigger the travesty seems.

179 posted on 09/26/2001 8:25:56 AM PDT by a history buff
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To: a history buff
I already said mea culpa to Theresa! I promised to learn more about medjugorie and father gobbi! Eh--humility isn't that difficult. ;)

Still, regarding the liquification of blood--I don't think it is contrary to our faith. I do believe in miracles.

180 posted on 09/26/2001 9:14:38 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: a history buff
In regard to the liquification of blood, it seems every possible argument has been presented by skeptics, but I think they can be dismissed in view of the contrary reactions of the blood.

For example, the phenomenon occurs at different temperatures as indicated by the recordss kept for more than a century, and by the studies of Professors Pergola, Punzo, and Sperindeo who concluded that there is no direct relation between the temperature and the time and manner of liquification.

Also there is a condition regarding the weight. Experiments conducted from 1902-1904, the reliquary was weighed. It's weight is no more consistant than its bulk, or, its weight might increase as much as 25 grams, thereby defying the laws of physics. To me that is strange--the weight in the mass actually decreases, and a decrease in weight when the volume increases. Isn't that in direct opposition to the laws that dictate an increase in weight with a corresponding increase in mass?

I have no problem admitting when I am wrong or undereducated on a subject, but certainly I think miracles do exists.

183 posted on 09/26/2001 9:31:01 AM PDT by JMJ333
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