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Saint's Blood Liquefies - Good Omen for the World
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| 09/20/2001
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Posted on 09/22/2001 6:04:00 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cicero
The "Festa" in NYC is a big deal for the tourists, maybe. Also a big money maker for the scuzzbucket mafia. VAFFANCULO IL "COSA NOSTRA"---MAFIA SONO TUTTI SFACIM'!!!
To: Cultural Jihad
Good grief!
To: a history buff
In regard to the liquification of blood, it seems every possible argument has been presented by skeptics, but I think they can be dismissed in view of the contrary reactions of the blood.
For example, the phenomenon occurs at different temperatures as indicated by the recordss kept for more than a century, and by the studies of Professors Pergola, Punzo, and Sperindeo who concluded that there is no direct relation between the temperature and the time and manner of liquification.
Also there is a condition regarding the weight. Experiments conducted from 1902-1904, the reliquary was weighed. It's weight is no more consistant than its bulk, or, its weight might increase as much as 25 grams, thereby defying the laws of physics. To me that is strange--the weight in the mass actually decreases, and a decrease in weight when the volume increases. Isn't that in direct opposition to the laws that dictate an increase in weight with a corresponding increase in mass?
I have no problem admitting when I am wrong or undereducated on a subject, but certainly I think miracles do exists.
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posted on
09/26/2001 9:31:01 AM PDT
by
JMJ333
To: JMJ333
Her mantle has stars, gold sun rays, the moon and an angel. Each relates directly to some aspect of Aztec divinity. For example, the rays of the sun express the presence of the sun god qeutzacoatl. And that She is standing on the moon reminds the Nahuatl [aztecs] of the god of night. She is also being carried by an angel which further relates her to aztec divinity, since royalty and representatives of deities were carried by others. All the more proof to me that Satan is behind "Our Lady of Guadalupe." Why in the world would the Holy Spirit have to use symbols of pagan gods to convert a people?
To: DallasDeb
Deb...I really have no idea what to say to you. You're free to believe what you want. At least take the time to do some research before coming to that conclusion. I agree that some things are manifestations of evil, but Our Lady of Guadalupe isn't one of them. I mean, the end result was 9 million converted to Christianity. Do you think bringing people to Christ is what Satan had in mind?
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posted on
09/26/2001 10:11:32 AM PDT
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JMJ333
To: al_c, eastsider
God works through prophets, not transforming objects.
One particular burning bush comes to mind. Good find. However in that situation, God himself spoke, and didn't leave it up to pundits for the interpretation.
I was merely asking what need the miracle of a six-day universe satisfied.
Why should God take longer than He needs? If we look at later scripture, we see the seventh day being set aside as a day of rest.
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posted on
09/26/2001 12:43:25 PM PDT
by
aimhigh
To: aimhigh
In all candor, a miracle consisting of 1700-year-old dried blood that liquefies, whether authentic or not, doesn't do much for me either. Then again, neither does a 6000-year-old universe that appears millions of years old, whether authentic or not. I guess I just don't have the spiritual need that these miracles are supposed to satisfy.
To: JMJ333
'him" should have been spelled "Him."
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posted on
09/26/2001 1:32:00 PM PDT
by
tracer
To: Illbay
You really should apologize, drop it, and re-read our Articles of Faith -- IMHO.......
189
posted on
09/26/2001 1:37:59 PM PDT
by
tracer
To: JMJ333, Hamilton2
(EASY TO BE SKEPTICAL ...HARD TO BELIEVE) JMJ, thank you for keeping this fascinating thread on track. What these self appointed sceptics forget is that scepticism should be applied equally to all, including their beloved religious faith of modern age science itself, its precepts, foundations and "findings". Think Margaret Mead, if you can't bring yourself to think Carl Sagan or global warming or nuclear winter. Science! Phew!
I believe...
To: Revolting cat!
Thanks cat...I believe too. :)
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posted on
09/26/2001 5:12:50 PM PDT
by
JMJ333
To: Cultural Jihad
"Saint's Blood Liquefies - Good Omen for the World" Yeah, sure it did.
To: Revolting cat!, a history buff
I was doing some thinking about the liquification-- Wouldn't the impossiblity of a natural explanation increase by the fact that the substance in the vials is true blood?
How does one explain why the blood sometimes forms tiny bubblets that rise to the surface and collect into foam? Or why, when it bubbles, it becomes a crimson color, while at other times the color of the liquified material is dull and sluggish in movement.
So far as I know, there has been [to date] no scientific explanation of the phenomenon.
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posted on
09/26/2001 6:04:23 PM PDT
by
JMJ333
To: Aquinasfan
Yeah, but for a street witness and one who brings people to Christ online, Baptising anyone is kinda hard unless there's a puddle deep enough around (lol) or theres crackers and grape juice handy.
Anyways, I can't see where you're going here . I'm just a messenger,I leave seeds and lead people to Christ, when one recieves Jesus it's up to them with Him from that point on .
It's good to see a Catholic which has a Bible out though, go and preach and do all things in His name, for He is with you .
Cheese.
(Luke 5:17-26>
To: DallasDeb
Cuz there are other spirits and other miricals which Satan can perform to have others believe and at times believe wrongly . Read Revelation 2 and 3 on the Churches .
Satan can use the truth to decieve . Satan is a deciever, cunning, destructive, he'd do anything just as long as someone doesn't get the whole picture while they believe they do .
Cheese .
Behold I shall stand at the door and knock . If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into him and dine with him and he with Me.(Rev,3:20)
To: CCWoody,Jerry_M,George W. Bush
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To: DallasDeb, All
Excuse me .
Behold I stand at the door and knock . If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into him and dine with him and he with Me.Rev(3:20)
To: AmericanCheeseFood
Satan can use the truth to decieve . Satan is a deciever, cunning, destructive, he'd do anything just as long as someone doesn't get the whole picture while they believe they do .Satan wanted the conversion of 9 million aztecs to christianity?
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posted on
09/26/2001 8:34:06 PM PDT
by
JMJ333
To: JMJ333
Simple deception, get peopel to believe that if they pray to anyone else but Jesus for their salvation they are saved or that if they pray through anyone but Jesus that their prayers are heard . Jesus never taught this and adding this is a something the Devil has done . Like a person with good intentions thinking it ok would add the Koran to their daily dose of bread and meat which God offers by His Word . On top of that it's warned against by God and shown throughout the Bible .
Did not the Devil offer Jesus things by using the Bible?
Revelations 17:1-6
Jeremiah 7:18(and then some)
Jeremiah 44
1 Corinthains 8:1-13
Through the Bible I know He is with me at all times, offering guidance, through Word and conviction from His Spirit . I enjoy the Lord and can't add to His word nor place anyone before Him . I don't hate or dislike those who follow Catholic beliefs, I love them as I should everyone who needs Jesus . I dislike the practices and things that are added to His words .
Cheese.
Vintage 8-16-95
St. Louis Rams own !!
To: All .
people ^
Gaw, typos !
Cheese.
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