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TIME Exclusive: Cropduster Manual Discovered in Suspected Terrorist Hideout
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| September.22,2001
| MASSIMO CALABRESI AND SALLY DONNELLY
Posted on 09/22/2001 3:08:14 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
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To: Lazamataz
North by Northwest cropduster bump.
I was at a conference in the Plaza Hotel in New York a couple of years ago, so I asked the bartender in the Oak Room whether the Oak Room scenes in the movie had been shot there. He didn't have the slightest idea what I was talking about. But I got a videotape of the movie recently, which includes a documentary of the shooting of the movie. Turns out the Oak Room scenes were shot in a facsimile of the bar built in Hollywood.
The cropduster scenes were shot outside Bakersfield in California.
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posted on
09/22/2001 4:19:18 PM PDT
by
aristeides
(demosthenes@olg.com)
To: Impeach98
I think you also forget that non-citizens have NO RIGHTS to stay permanently in the US. They are here at our whim, they can be sent back at any time for any reason.
143
posted on
09/22/2001 4:20:30 PM PDT
by
FITZ
To: bluefish
"Huh? Nuke 'em where?
I was being facetious, evident in following posts...gotcha! Now I know your paying attention.
144
posted on
09/22/2001 4:21:43 PM PDT
by
vmatt
To: Smittyat90210
Just kick these people out of the country.
Simple!
145
posted on
09/22/2001 4:21:48 PM PDT
by
Bogie
To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
While its true, terrorists have upset the normality of American life, lets not forget since the attacks on the WTC/Pentagon took place, our military buildup has thrown the Middle East into complete and utter turmoil. No one in the Middle East knows where America might strike first. Everyone 'over there' is running around pulling their beards out and wondering what will happen next. They're scared shitless!
Will America strike first at the Taliban, or may be Hamas? Perhaps the Muslim Brotherhood, or may be the US will attack the National Islamic Front. Then again, may be our first strike will be aimed at Hizbullah in Lebanon.
The USA is throwing around its own "turds" in the Middle East right now. And its nice to see these anti-American haters get some of their own medicine thrown right back at them!
God Bless America
To: MississippiMan
AOPA.org has updated information on what's going on. I'm sorry that legitimate banner towers and other pilots (like traffic watch) are not able to fly. Many small businesses here at the airport (ours included) were hammered by this. But I do NOT want to see anything flying over a crowd of people.
BTW, Geoff Metcalf, in his Saturday rerun from Thursday, had some critical words for the open-air memorials... and I agree. Not prudent at this time...
To: Plummz
I think this thread and my #134 will interest you.
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posted on
09/22/2001 4:22:36 PM PDT
by
aristeides
(demosthenes@olg.com)
To: aristeides
I also picked up on the fact you can see Cary Grant near a sign saying I-47 in the corn field. Well, I know the film was filmed years ago, but I-47 is very short and very near Chicago, and it would have been overtaken by the city even then.
Comment #150 Removed by Moderator
To: HiTech RedNeck
"What kind of gun would it take to down such a plane?"338 Win mag and up. As long as the ballistic coeff. is ~>3. Need wingshooting practice, know the ballistics and how to est. distance/airspeed.
To: spunkets
Thanks, and bump!
To: Balding_Eagle
That makes us all feel safer.
To: FITZ
"Back in WWII it wasn't the policy to try to distinguish good Nazis from bad Nazis, we didn't give any the run of the US."
LOL! We had one nazi here who was spiking livestock with disease as part of their bio-terrorism effort.
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posted on
09/22/2001 4:29:19 PM PDT
by
vmatt
To: bootless
"The dusters have been allowed back up, but are not allowed to take off or land from what traffic controllers refer to as Class B airspace, or the skies around major cities." This makes me feel a whole lot better. I live in a small town.
To: sneakypete
Interesting, huh?
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posted on
09/22/2001 4:31:31 PM PDT
by
Chapita
To: Common Tator
OK. Now I am going to bring up another thing that has been bugging me for almost two years. We have a large number of Chinese immigrants. I have never figured out how they got here, since most totalitarian countries do not allow citizens to leave.
I am not discussing the students and scientists and such. I am talking about the people who come and open a restaurant, which costs at least $10,000 to get going. And they do not have credit established.
Now, on the Beltway Boys I just heard that a bunch of Chinese journalists were seen and heard laughing and cheering as the WTC came down. Thankfully, this is the Bush Administration, and Armitage had them thrown them out of the country immediately.
I do not think that the Chinese like us one bit. I also know they have been up to no good with many of the Islamic groups. This has made me think about a SECOND group of cells being here....non-Arabic.
Please tell me to remove my tinfoil hat. Please.
Comment #158 Removed by Moderator
To: all
Mr.
Ahmed Badawi is thought to be one of the ringleaders, according to Mindbender26's thread yesterday:
Orlando-Based Egyptian Travel Agent, Now Held In Jail, Seen As Key Player In Terrorist Movements.He's not listed with the Florida SOS offices under that name. Instead, he goes by the name of "Ed." In addition to his "Florida Sunny Summer Tour" business that he used to move people into/out/throughout the US, it looks like he also owns "Delta Gas Corp." What kind of hazardous permits do companies like this have?
US Business Directory
FLORIDA SUNNY SUMMER TOUR
36 S SEMORAN BLVD
ORLANDO, FL 32807-3229 UNITED STATES
TEL: 407-277-8424
COUNTY: 12095 ORANGE
POPULATION: 100,000 - 249,999 DD
CARRIER-CODE: C004
PRI-SIC: 472501 TOURS-OPERATORS & PROMOTERS
LOC-SALES: 1,000 - 499,999 AA
LOC-EMPLOYEES: 2
PAR-EMPLOYEES: UNKNOWN
BUSINESS-ORG: FIRM
EXECUTIVES: ED BADAWI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ("Ahmed" becomes Americanized to "Ed." Cute.)
AD-SIZE: REGULAR LISTING
CREDIT: SATISFACTORY
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH
US Business Directory
DELTA GAS CORP
2139 WASHINGTON ST
BRAINTREE, MA 02184-8660 UNITED STATES
TEL: 781-843-9711
ABI-NO: 107650434
COUNTY: 25021 NORFOLK
POPULATION: 500,000 PLUS FF
CARRIER-CODE: C027
PRI-SIC: 554101
SERVICE STATIONS-GASOLINE & OIL LOC-SALES: 500,000 - 999,999 BB
LOC-EMPLOYEES: 3
PAR-EMPLOYEES: UNKNOWN
BUSINESS-ORG: FIRM
EXECUTIVES: ED BADAWI, MANAGER
CREDIT: GOOD
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH
FLORIDA FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAMES
DBA NAME: E D S Drive Svc ("E.D.S." stands for "Ed's?")
BUSINESS ADDRESS: 4300 S
Semoran Blvd Ste 203
Orlando,
FL 32822-2453
BUSINESS PHONE: 407-851-8989
STATE: Florida COUNTY: Orange
OWNER: Bahmed, Badawi (Now we've switched to "Bahmed.")
OWNER ADDRESS: Telephone Number: 407
BUSINESS DESCRIPTION: Nonclassified Establishments
FILING DATE: 3/31/1998
To: Miss Marple
China has never been a "friend" to any nation...but China, to my knowledge.
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posted on
09/22/2001 4:37:15 PM PDT
by
Selara
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