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Posted on 09/22/2001 12:51:56 PM PDT by xinga

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To: Manny Festo
The problem is that those Muslims who oppose the radicals are themselves in danger and fear of becoming the target of the radicals in Islam.

If they really oppose the radicals, then there are many ways they could respond, from an anonymous phone call reporting where the radicals live, to a quiet knife in the back some dark night as the radical returns home

The radicals could not survive for long if there was a significant number of Muslims who knew who they were and were willing to do something about it

I'm afraid that the Muslim community can more realisticly be divided into "violent radicals" and "silent supporters", with the latter possibly disapproving of the tactics, but never enough to actually do something about it.

21 posted on 09/23/2001 3:42:53 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: MarkWar
I'm not sure I completely understand the thrust of your post...

What I was trying to point out was that there were some (probably only a handful) of early Christians who desired martyrdom so much that they would disturb a pagan ritual so that they would be put to death by the authorities. Enough of them did this so that the Bishops spoke out against this form of suicide. Now we're asking the moderate Muslims to also speak out against suicide in the name of their religion.

22 posted on 09/23/2001 3:44:08 PM PDT by xinga
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To: SauronOfMordor
Bump. Eliminate or neutralize the clerics, and you have cut off one leg of an ungainly beast.

Ideally, I'd like to see competing "branches" of Islam do the work for us, even if we have to create those branches ourselves. Foment discord and promote confusion at the religio-political level.

23 posted on 09/23/2001 3:49:11 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: xinga
Most Americans have never had a real threat to their survival and do not consider the WTC to be one either.

Too late to learn when they are taken hostage and their cries for mercy are falling on deaf ears.


BUMP

24 posted on 09/23/2001 3:54:15 PM PDT by tm22721
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To: publius911
They continue with the illusion that we can reason with terrorists...

You're 5,000+ times right. But we do need to reason with the moderates and inform them that either they're with us or against us. There is to be no more supporting of these killers of our children and babies.

To all: Thanks for making this a very thoughtful and informational thread. I need to get back to work putting out those resumes.

25 posted on 09/23/2001 4:00:41 PM PDT by xinga
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To: Manny Festo
that it had been pulled and banned by many U.S. bookstores as a result of Bush's speech on 20 Sept.

That might have been the official reason, but I think the real reason was more likely a combination of "politically correct" censorship by leftist bookstore employees, plus fear of harrassment by Muslim groups

27 posted on 09/24/2001 3:27:28 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
One fundamental tenet of guerilla warfare is that when you have an opposing force which operates from sanctuary, you will eventually lose.

That depends upon the objectives that define a victory. Occupation need not be one of them. Destroy their ability to wage international war (i.e. terrorism), isolate them, and destroy the states that supply them.

28 posted on 09/24/2001 3:57:32 AM PDT by beavus
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and destroy the states that supply them.

Among the states that support and supply the Taliban are Saudi Arabia and China. Each is going to be delicate to deal with

29 posted on 09/24/2001 5:08:51 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: MarkWar
A giant bump for what you conveyed so well.
30 posted on 09/24/2001 6:00:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: xinga
Here's a moderate Muslim
31 posted on 10/13/2001 5:24:21 AM PDT by xinga
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To: xinga
bump, lest we forget
32 posted on 11/07/2001 4:20:16 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
So what is our most important target? The anti-American Muslim clerics. They're the ones who are doing the recruiting and indoctrination. As long as they can operate openly and without response, we have a problem. (Your post 13)

After studying the terrorist problem, you put the solution into a nutshell. How do you do it? :)

33 posted on 11/10/2001 10:02:11 AM PST by xinga
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To: xinga
The more important point was "the money men behind the clerics".

This basicly reems to be a replay of the contest between the West and Communism. During the Cold War, we had people over here stirring things up, who turned out to have been financed from Moscow. (See the Venona intercepts). In retrospect, it should have been obvious: the agitators did not have day jobs. How were they paying their bills?

Similarly, what we have here are mullahs being financed from out of Saudi Arabia, who recruit stunted personalities into radical Islam and get them all pumped up about fighting the infidels. As long as we just concentrate on the terrorists, we get nowhere, as the mullahs will just produce five for every one we catch. And there will be an every-increasing number of mullahs in the US recruiting terrorists, as long as the Saudis have money to pay the bills. Meanwhile the Saudis can walk around with innocent looks on their faces, as they are not directly connected

It's like trying to get rid of weeds. If you hack off the stem, it will just grow back. You need to dig it out by the roots. The Saudi money people are the roots

There's evidence that people with advance knowledge of the WTC attack made millions of dollars from trading in the stock market (see Profits of Doom). The lack of mainstream coverage indicates that the people at the end of the money trail are too sensitive to touch. We need to touch them anyway

34 posted on 11/10/2001 12:57:58 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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