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Events-driven Moderator activities - another look at guidelines
9/21/01 | Lead Moderator

Posted on 09/21/2001 7:49:05 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Users of FreeRepublic deserve an explanation of recent moderator activities. By signing up to be a user of the forum, everyone agrees to abide by the posted guidelines. This is another look at those guidelines, the intent behind them - and some new guideline enhancements that are being incorporated that need the attention of everyone.


WHY GUIDELINES NOT RULES

Let’s begin first by hearing from Jim Robinson about the difference between guidelines and rules, and why FR has guidelines.

One thing I've always resisted on FR is having a lot of rules. Especially if they have to be strictly enforced. We've always had our general posting guidelines, but we like to leave a lot of latitude so as not to stifle debate.

It is our desire to keep out clearly inappropriate material, while allowing as much room as possible for debate.

Guidelines, rather than hard and fast rules presupposes that the success or failure of them rests with the users of FR. If there is a breakdown, the intent of the forum is compromised. Jim puts it this way.
We are a news and current events discussion site. We are conservatives. We are adults. The FR forum is a working forum where we are not only discussing news and issues that are important to us, but we are also planning and engaging in political activism projects. We do not appreciate being interrupted by people who want to post insults or smear attacks or personal attacks or otherwise try to disrupt our activities, etc.


WHAT WE WANT, AND DON’T WANT

We are looking for news articles, well written and well informed opinion, facts and usable information and certainly having some fun now and then while we pursue the goals of keeping our government as servant of the people - and not allowing it to make us more its servants.

In short, as the lead moderator, I don’t like having to wipe up after the children here. I don’t enjoy, nor do I or any of those who work with Jim, “want to be posting police or thought police and we also do not want to be referees or judges.” (The reason that is in quotes is because Jim said it as we talked about the focus of this post.) He also said:

Posters should strive to avoid flame-wars and feuds and/or avoid posting materials that are clearly not welcome here, and then we can all enjoy the forum much more and we will not need as much moderation.
Interruption and disruption, in a nutshell, angers many - and causes them to hit the abuse button. That button has been hit far too often of late - creating a higher number of abuse complaints than ever before seen on FR, averaging some 300-500 per day (multiple complaints on between 100 to 200 articles per day.) Needless to say, many of these posts were pulled - many of them due to some of the most vicious and ridiculous flame-wars ever witnessed on FR - along with every sort of violation of posting guidelines. Unfortunately causing otherwise perfectly good articles to disappear in the process.
Such flame-wars brought John Robinson to suggest, “outright prohibiting”of them - and to say, “These types of posts detract from the FR message, people don't come here [for them.] People should have the good sense not to start these threads. Unfortunately everything needs to be spelled out in clear lettering or somebody is going to miss the point.”
John is right. Personally, I enjoy what we call ‘freeping’ - reading the news, commenting on articles and keeping up with events. I don’t enjoy having to stop and handle abuse complaints, and neither does anyone who works to assist Jim in maintaining order here. That has led to the following.


DEBATE AND DISAGREEMENT - LESS TOLERANCE FOR FLAME-WARS

Disagreement is part of debate, of that there is no question. But too often debate ends with someone calling someone else stupid, or using vulgar names. Moderators review posts and abuse reports received, and keep an eye out for those posts and users that we feel cross the line into racism, profanity and personal attacks. When that happens, we have no choice but to act.

We attempt to be as flexible as we can in allowing reasoned and temperate disagreement, but you can indeed look for less tolerance now for flame-wars on FR. We have been, and will continue to pull posts that are obviously, or thoughtlessly designed to start flame-wars.

In addition to that strengthening of our intent to keep the forum less combative and focused more on our goals, there are additional clarifications and additions to posting guidelines which follow.


NEW MODERATOR PRACTICES - OLD AND NEW GUIDELINES

Because we are ‘at war’ with terrorism, you may already have seen the old WWII policy of ‘loose-lips sink ships’ stated in posts here - something Jim began here, and has recently been followed and resurrected by major media outlets.

The policy is simple. If you have information about military movement that has not been published in major media, and is not considered ‘public knowledge’ it may be inappropriate or unwise to post it on FR. In short, use the question-gauge of, ‘does this come from major media?’ If so, and if it has not already been posted before, the information will not violate the ‘loose-lips’ policy.

The following is not new to FR, but this policy has been tightened and will continue as needed.


RACISM POLICY - THE TIGHTEST GUIDELINE ON FR

It is probably best to outline what is, and what is not acceptable where the subject of race is concerned - since first and foremost, race has been used by the enemies of Constitutional limits on government to force the removal of many of our freedoms.


NOT ACCEPTABLE

Blatant racism is indeed an ugly thing - and all material that is blatantly racist will be pulled when it is found or reported. Posts that express open hatred of any race, including Arabs - particularly Americans of Arab descent - are candidates for removal, and the expulsion of the poster from FR.

I suggest keeping your anger focused on those who use race to divide and conquer, i.e., the hypocritical socialists in the U.S. who needlessly fan the fires of racism to their advantage. Bigotry is part of racism, and part of religious persecution in the United States and elsewhere.

We know that, but keep your eye on where most of this comes from. Flatly stated, it is not from mainstream Americans, although many have fallen prey to it. The prostitution of major media in support of the socialist elite in academia and government should be slapped down hard with prime examples of the lack of racism right here on FreeRepublic - we have many of all colors and race among us. Let use that, not fall prey to the guile and habits of our real enemies.


RACE ACCEPTABLE

News and articles that discuss racial issues such as quotas, immigration, education and hiring practices in rational ways aimed at problems and redress are permitted.

News and articles and replies which discuss events, identified terrorists and those nations that harbor them are certainly permitted - along with appropriate comments, including outrage that does not include vulgarity, profanity, advocacy of killing of innocents, and ‘nuke-em-all’ sentiments, etc.

Posts and discussion of the religious beliefs of the various sects of Islam (there are several) are also allowed, but are limited to absence of the inappropriate content noted prior in this section.

The US has declared ‘war on terrorism' and those who support it - but all Arabs and Arab nations are not included in the definition of ‘the enemy.' Remember that, and that President Bush said, "In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect."


NEEDLESS DUPLICATES

We have a lot of duplication. Part of the guidelines are that users seek to avoid needless duplication or multiple posts of the same article from the same source. That includes an effort to do a search on the headline of the article to see if it has already been posted - before posting.

Note carefully, the success or failure of preventing needless duplication is predicated on the use of the original source document headline at all times, so that searches on that headline will be successful if it was posted prior. Posts that do not use the original headline may be removed.

Understandably, many times there are two or more people preparing the same post at the same time, having done a search and not found the article posted. Many times people ask moderators to remove a post they found to be a duplicate.

In addition, moderators also remove duplicate posts that are placed in the forum at approximately the same time. This is not to say that important news items can not be re-posted on the forum at some number of hours after an original post was posted. Some of these are appropriate, and moderators are urged to weigh the significance of such duplicates and allow them where appropriate.


COMMENTS

We are, as always, open to your comments on moderator activities. Some have made what I feel are good suggestions, some of which have been incorporated into the practices of moderators.

Once again though, we are not open to suggestions that moderators be identified - our anonymity will remain the policy of FR.


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To: Sidebar Moderator - Admin Moderator
Would it be too presumptuous to ask what happened to thread # 2? *bg* (-:
121 posted on 09/22/2001 8:33:25 AM PDT by Scuttlebutt
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To: ALL
Communications to us are best via abuse reports or Freepmail. Flagging us on a thread may not get our attention very quickly.
122 posted on 09/22/2001 8:35:24 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator, SamAdams76
SamAdams, I loved the "OOPS! I want this post retracted now." post of yours. That would be a heavily used button by lodwick.

Thanks to all the Moderators, you folks are doing a super job. JL

123 posted on 09/22/2001 8:56:36 AM PDT by lodwick (Let's Roll, is right!)
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To: Admin Moderator
We pull much that is reported to us, and find a few on our own.

That can't be stated too loudly!

I, and I think most of us, just don't have the time to go looking for posts or threads to pull. We rely on everyone to bring the problems to our attention and we do occasionally find some in the course of reading the threads that interest us.

In the course of doing all this, we are more in tune with duplicate posts and sometimes lose patience with them. The article about the Canadian broadcast which stood up for Americans comes to mind. If that was posted once, it was posted 20 times over several days. And many of them were pulled.

I was never asked to monitor threads or monitor users, nor do I think we should.

124 posted on 09/22/2001 9:27:58 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
I would imagine that your job is a whole lot tougher now then it would have been a couple of months ago. Emotions are running so high now, but you guys are doing a superior job and we're all grateful to you.
125 posted on 09/22/2001 9:42:19 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Communications to us are best via abuse reports or Freepmail.

Forgot to mention on this, your abuse reports are anonymous to us. If you expect an answer, use Freepmail, but if it's via an abuse report, give us your screenname so we can respond.

126 posted on 09/22/2001 9:50:23 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
BUMP!
127 posted on 09/22/2001 11:25:41 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator
If that was posted once, it was posted 20 times over several days. And many of them were pulled.

... A compelling reason to fix author search.

128 posted on 09/22/2001 11:31:26 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Miss Marple, Lady In Blue, PhiKapMom, Teacup, Irma, Howlin, GUIDO, Southflanknorthpawsis,
bump your way... there was a thread 2 earlier today but it's gone now..... guess it got the axe
129 posted on 09/22/2001 12:25:42 PM PDT by deport
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To: Smartaleck, sinkspur, DainBramage, ravingnutter, lonestar, Reagan Man, self_reliant, Dog Gone
If ye be interested
130 posted on 09/22/2001 12:26:23 PM PDT by deport
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To: bayourod, Common Tator, Ole Okie, woofie,McGavin999, Billie,Cheney Chick, Iwo Jima
for your reading pleasure.....
131 posted on 09/22/2001 12:27:02 PM PDT by deport
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To: Sidebar Moderator Admin Moderator Moderator Moderator
Hey, moderators!

We need a link where each of us can get a reading on how much of your tolerance we have used up.

With that info, I would have a clearer idea of whether my posts should become more mellow or more acerbic.

Too much mellowness is cloying...but I'm a nice guy, really!

I have rarely been the recipient of inappropriate posts, myself, and I can't say it's for lack of provocation!

FReepers are the most polite group of highly opinionated people it has been my privilege to encounter.

With the exception of you arrogant so-called 'moderators'. Get a life, loosers!

That was jest. ;^)

132 posted on 09/22/2001 12:45:06 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: deport, summer
Interesting discussion.
133 posted on 09/22/2001 1:01:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: headsonpikes
We need a link where each of us can get a reading on how much of your tolerance we have used up.

How about a little battery gauge like you have on a laptop next to your screen name on each post? :o)

134 posted on 09/22/2001 1:17:04 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: deport
Thanks for the ping. I hadn't noticed any recent increase in flame wars lately. What threads are these taking place on?
135 posted on 09/22/2001 3:18:03 PM PDT by bayourod
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To: bayourod
I don't know. They had a second thread on this one running but it got zapped......
136 posted on 09/22/2001 3:34:46 PM PDT by deport
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To: tpaine
Strange that after having read some of your other posts, you use the same words (silly and inane), with some frequency, and it seems that you use them when you run out of argument. Trust me, I'll continue to ignore you and won't lump you in with anyone else ever again. You're particularly unique.
137 posted on 09/22/2001 4:08:43 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: Silly, Admin Moderator
I just wanna know if "ass" is a profanity unless I say "Bush's Speech Kicked Ass." hehe
138 posted on 09/22/2001 9:12:54 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Silly
Hey, you don't exist! Silly's profile
139 posted on 09/22/2001 11:23:45 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Silly
I was NOT responsible for Roebucks' spin-off of my spin-off.

Hey Silly boy,

I can take my own lumps. BTW, I take 2 lumps with strong Columbian coffee.

FREE SILLY!

140 posted on 09/23/2001 9:54:57 AM PDT by Roebucks
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