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To: imberedux
---my meatworld nickname and internet posting handle "zog"-all lower case and no periods-is not Z.O.G. It's a real nick I have had for a long time. It comes from a gary larsen farside cartoon. zog and thag are two cavemen brothers who are recurring characters in some of his cartoons. zog is the intellectual inventor cavemen who wears glasses. It's a coincidence with this other acronym.

If you had sent me freepmail, or had bothered to read my bio, you would have seen that. Already went through this with another poster here when I started posting on freeps.

Guess because I consider certain elements in government, or have actual historical references that might be appropriately mentioned, that automatically makes me a badguy, yes?

Lynchmobs with no intelligence or analytical abilities are the real terrorists, always have been. the behind the scenes fatcat string pullers love them, there's even a name, it's called "useful idiots". Keep being lead around by the nose by the media and the liars in government, you help to justify their paychecks on how effective their spin and brainwashing are.

60 posted on 09/22/2001 6:21:02 AM PDT by zog
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To: zog
--this is a re-paste of my comments on the other relevant thread to this, I take nothing back, by the way:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3baaf5260b79.htm

---I have been suspicious of this whole attack since day one, but it's hard in the middle of the rah rah nuke the a-rabs postings to approach this subject with any sort of rationality. The evidence is overwhelming that middle easterners did the attack, but there has also been reams of evidence that the shadow international forces of the NWO have been behind a variety of actions in the past as well. Their goals-some of them- are definetly a world two class society, and an armed and aware US population is a direct threat to them. I put NOTHING past them as they seek the culmination of their goals.

This new homeland defense head is obviously anti gun for the average person. he's had to tread carefully in his home state, too many hunters, etc, but the impetus is there to see. Other actions of the fedgov in the past are still there, they have still happened.

Guess what I am saying is that there still exists a chance that way back behind the scenes this latest attack is a variation on the reichstagg gambit. We need to be vigilant all the time. When it comes to "the government" we need to "trust-but verify", I am not giving them a free skate and a blank check to do whatever they want, and to continually demonize people. I listened to an interview with senator bill graham of florida, who very loudly stated that the OKC blast was 'the work of domestic militias". this was right after the wtc attack. He's on the senate intel committee. He's also a moron and/or a liar if he thinks that. There is a huge coverup in the OKC case, plenty of linkages to various fedgov groups and shadowy middle easterners have come out. What there isn't is much of any linkage to any domestic peoples militia.

These people at the top have some weird agendas all the time. This new homeland defense is just the new and improved version of the FEMA martial law package basically. "Homeland" makes it automatically sound like you are a terroist if you are against any of their actions in the future, no matter how harmful or weird they might be. These globalists allowed all these terrorists into the country, it was THEIR CALL on it, they used governmental force and policy to strip us of any sane border control, and they have forceably resisted any attemtps at a national dialogue on trading with the enemy or sane immigration policies. It's their turkey, not the people who have been steadfast in arguing for sane domestic security for decades and have been ignored or called rascists by the do-nothinbg free traders, the blood money profiteers. Along with the so called war on so called some drugs, their actions are always suspect in my book. Wheels within wheels here all the time.

There are plenty of patriots left in government, and in the large corporate leadership levels, however, there are plenty of non patriot globalist NWO types mixed in as well, and little way to tell them apart except for their actions. The Heglian Dialectic is still there, hasn't gone away. Even making use of a random nasty event is not beyond their thinking or capabilities to further their anti freedom agendas.

I will watch the next terrorist attrack. If these bozos use some mind controlled manchurian candidate domestic bubbas, that will be all the clue I need to see through their smokescreens that this is the mother of all scams. I've seen the linkages already in the newscasts several times now. The demonizations are lurking right there in the open, you can see it and hear it. As hitler blamed the external communists and the internal communists and "jews" and other assorted "untermenschen", I think we might see a similar tactic used at some point here as well. Global politics is as old as history, nothing changes really. Always the wolves out there seeking total power and control.

61 posted on 09/22/2001 6:41:10 AM PDT by zog
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