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On the Complicity of Extremist Islamic Fundamentalism
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Posted on 09/20/2001 7:33:13 PM PDT by SlickWillard

Chief Saudi spy fired before attack: 25-year official failed to deliver bin Laden to U.S.

Saudi Arabia's King Fahd fired his intelligence chief for suspected ties to alleged Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden, just days before hijacked U.S. airliners were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

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FBI arrests Texas doctor in hijacking case

Albader Alhazmi, 34, a Saudi national, is being held by federal agents in New York as a "material witness" in the hijacking probe, law enforcement sources said Monday ... FBI agents seized computers and other records from Alhazmi's home and a library at the University of Texas Health Science Center, where he is a radiologist in the final year of a 5-year residency. Alhazmi, according to University of Texas records, is a graduate of King Abdul Aziz University in Saudi Arabia. His residency at the University of Texas was sponsored by ARAMCO, the Saudi national oil company. On Galway Bay Road near the Health Science Center, neighbors told the San Antonio Express-News that Alhazmi, his wife and young children were part of a close-knit group of three Muslim families that lived in the gated townhouse community.

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KILLERS FLYING IN FIRST CLASS

All the gang - believed to have been led by Mohammed Atta, 32 - are thought to be well-educated Egyptians or Saudis. One, Waleed Al Shehri, was the son of a wealthy Saudi diplomat in the US.

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To All Angry Americans

Then fully supported, FINANCED, and BACKED by PAKISTAN, and with AMERICA'S BLESSING, the Taleban were created. They brought an extremist form of Islam that is FOREIGN to our land. It came from that craphole across the border, Pakistan and from dirty camel humping Arab countries. Pakistan and ARAB countries SUPPORT the Taleban. America now denounces them, the rest of the world now denounces them. They took over 90% of Afghanistan thanks to PAKISTANI support and US's ignorance. NO Afghan considers them true Muslims or Afghans. They are dirty Pakis that have destroyed our nation even more, destroyed our cultural heritage and tried ERASING our history so Filthistan (Pakistan) could build a friend in us. We have always hated Pakistan since it's creation by British Puppets. They want a friend so they can use us to fight their dirty war against India in Kashmir.

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Gallup Poll-Two-thirds of Pakistanis support Afghanistan over US

More than two-thirds of people in Pakistan think their government should side with Afghanistan rather than the United States if Washington attacks the neighbouring country, a Gallup poll said Wednesday.

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Pakistani ex-general warns of uprising, war

Pakistan could erupt in popular protest, and India could be destabilised, if Karachi lets U.S. troops in to attack Afghanistan, the ex-head of Pakistani military intelligence said in remarks published on Monday. General Hameed Gul, a staunch Muslim deeply involved in helping Afghan Mujahideen fight the Soviet Union in the 1980s, told the newspaper Le Figaro that any plan to use Pakistan to help catch Saudi-born dissident Osama bin Laden would backfire.

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Pakistan Muslims Say They Will Obey Afghan Jihad Order

The head of a grouping of 35 Pakistani Islamic organizations said Wednesday they would have to obey any Taliban order for a religious war if the United States attacked Afghanistan. Maulana Sami-ul Haq, chairman of the Pakistan and Defense Council that includes 35 pro-Taliban Islamic groups, warned Pakistan's military leader General Pervez Musharraf against backing the U.S. campaign against the Taliban and their ``guest'' Osama bin Laden.

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Prejudice In Pakistan, According Paki Intelligence Israel behind bombings

And as the former head of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), its intelligence service, he had a key role in making Afghanistan what it is today ... It’s a truism that terrorists cannot function without the support of a state, and in the case of bin Laden he couldn’t function without the support of Afghanistan—and at least the tacit support of Pakistan as well. Afghanistan is not only land-locked, but surrounded by enemies—with the exception of Pakistan. Pakistan is the only way in or out of Afghanistan for bin Laden and his supporters, and if, as is widely believed, he is commanding and financing some 3,000 Arab soldiers in the 055 Arab Brigade, he needs a line of supply and that can only go through Pakistan. (Alternative routes, such as Iran and Tajikistan, are out of the question). Even air travel depends on crossing Pakistani air space, and there’s nothing to stop the Pakistanis from insisting on vetting the passenger rosters—something they have indeed done in the past.

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Bin Laden Seen as Perfect Holy Warrior in Pakistan

Vilified by Washington, Osama bin Laden, prime suspect for the horrific attacks last week on the United States, is seen by many in Muslim Pakistan as a shining example of the perfect holy warrior.

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Affluent Egyptians in Cairo Gloat Over Attacks While Eating Big Macs

Sitting under a poster advertising "Crispy and Delicious McWings," Radwa Abdallah, an 18-year-old university student, is explaining that she rejoiced when she learned that thousands of Americans had probably died in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. "Everyone celebrated," Ms. Abdallah says, as her girlfriends giggle. "People honked in the strets, cheering that finally America got what it truly deserved." Fellow student Raghda El Mahrouqi agrees: "I just hope there were a lot of Jews in that building," she says. Sherihan Ammar, an aspiring doctor in elaborate makeup and tight T-shirt, sums up her feelings this way: "America was just too full of itself," she says with a dismissive gesture.

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'Don't burn our country for a bunch of terrorists'

"We, the real Afghans, were there and we were fighting for our own country. We were on that hill fighting to take it for three days and then Bin Laden and the Arabs arrived and they took it in just one and a half hours. They just ran up the hill, it was mined all over and they lost 150 men but they took it. They are suicide fighters, they have no fear."

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Ground Zero and the Saudi connection

‘If the US wants to do something about radical Islam, it has to deal with Saudi Arabia. The “rogue states” [Iraq, Libya, etc.] are less important in the radicalisation of Islam than Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the single most important cause and supporter of radicalisation, ideologisation, and the general fanaticisation of Islam.’

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DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: STRANGE JUSTICE SUBSECTION: Judge Margaret Morrow Revised 11/18/99

8/28/98 Masood Haider DAWN (Pakistan) "The brother of Osama bin Laden is a director of a US telecom giant, Irridium LLC, according to reports. Although the Clinton administration has made Osama the world's most wanted man, the rest of the family does millions of dollars in business with the US, reports say. Sheikh Hasan bin Laden, one of Osama's many brothers in a Saudi family of immense wealth and far-flung enterprises, is listed by the Securities and Exchange Commission as a director of Iridium LLC, the New York newspaper Daily News said.."

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Excerpts from "Hunting Bin Laden": Family, Biography, Chronology, An American Associate

On his death in 1968, Sheik Mohammed left behind not only an industrial and financial estate but also a progeny made up of no less than 54 sons and daughters, the fruit of a number of marriages ... Most of these brothers have different mothers and different nationalities as well ... Osama bin Laden is, incidentally, the only brother with a Saudi mother ... With over 40,000 employees, the bin Laden group in Egypt, managed by Abdul Aziz bin Laden, is that country's largest foreign private group ... All his contacts would happen through his brothers. The brothers would approach two members of the royal family who were fairly sympathetic to Osama. They were Ahmed bin Abdul Aziz, deputy minister of interior and Abdul Rahman bin Abdul Aziz, deputy minister of defense. He might have met them in few occasions but those meetings would have been purely social or accidental in one of his brother's houses. Specifically he had no relation with Turki al-Faisal head of Saudi intelligence ... Again there were no official relations with officials in Pakistani government. However, he had paramount respect by many Pakistanis including people in the army, intelligence and religious establishment. They were so penetrating that they would always leak any plan against him by the Pakistani-Saudi-American alliance ... It is needless to say that bin Laden has not had any relation with Iran. Iran knows that bin Laden is a committed Sunni and he regards Iran as Shi'a state ... Some of the brothers and sisters believed it was their religious duty to support this distinguished brother from their own money. While many are very careful not to irritate the royal family, many more do not care and insist on letting the money reach Osama ... 1979 Bin Laden graduates from King Abdul Aziz University in Jiddah with a degree in civil engineering.

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To: SlickWillard
All these killers pass as moderate Islamists. Islam relies on will, not on G_d, but on the will of Allah, which would be different than Allah itself. Relying on violence is relying on violence. It is not because one claims violence is the will of Allah that it is.

Relying on will and on violence is just that, a reliance on a SECULAR CONCEPT OF SELF RELIANCE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD.


41 posted on 10/11/2001 4:19:18 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: SlickWillard
Saudi elite linked to bin Laden financial empire

Saudi Arabia, whose leaders had until yesterday refused to join U.S. efforts to freeze terrorist assets, may be an ongoing source of financial support for Osama bin Laden, the reputed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. Some of Saudi Arabia's richest families, including at least one member of the ruling al-Saud family, have had dealings with banks, charitable organizations and other financial institutions linked to bin Laden's complex funding network, according to public records, intelligence reports and terrorism experts.

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Key Muslim voices silent on Bin Laden

'We're losing the war of ideas," an Arab-American acquaintance told me. He meant the war to dissuade Arabs and other Muslims from public or private endorsement of Osama bin Laden's call for jihad against America. No matter how many U.S. officials deliver the message that we aren't warring on Islam, it doesn't seem to resonate with Egyptian, or Indonesian, or Pakistani masses.

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42 posted on 10/14/2001 1:19:03 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: BritBulldog
The muslims believe that angels will not come to a house that has dogs, and they think that they black and white dogs are evil, and I read in one place that they should be killed. Poor little dogs, and the devil does not like them.
43 posted on 10/17/2001 1:09:21 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: tessalu
The muslims believe that angels will not come to a house that has dogs, and they think that they black and white dogs are evil, and I read in one place that they should be killed. Poor little dogs, and the devil does not like them.

Seems like they believe in hocus pocus

44 posted on 10/19/2001 10:44:09 AM PDT by BritBulldog
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To: SlickWillard
Bump.
45 posted on 08/02/2002 11:26:54 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute; Admin Moderator
FYI: The original title of this thread was On the Complicity of Mainstream Islamic Society, but I guess that wasn't sufficiently PC for the censors.
46 posted on 08/02/2002 11:34:15 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
Interesting.

The number of missing threads and replies by Freepers from September 2001, also cleansed?

47 posted on 08/02/2002 1:26:03 PM PDT by First_Salute
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