Posted on 09/20/2001 7:33:13 PM PDT by SlickWillard
Chief Saudi spy fired before attack: 25-year official failed to deliver bin Laden to U.S.
Saudi Arabia's King Fahd fired his intelligence chief for suspected ties to alleged Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden, just days before hijacked U.S. airliners were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
FBI arrests Texas doctor in hijacking case
Albader Alhazmi, 34, a Saudi national, is being held by federal agents in New York as a "material witness" in the hijacking probe, law enforcement sources said Monday ... FBI agents seized computers and other records from Alhazmi's home and a library at the University of Texas Health Science Center, where he is a radiologist in the final year of a 5-year residency. Alhazmi, according to University of Texas records, is a graduate of King Abdul Aziz University in Saudi Arabia. His residency at the University of Texas was sponsored by ARAMCO, the Saudi national oil company. On Galway Bay Road near the Health Science Center, neighbors told the San Antonio Express-News that Alhazmi, his wife and young children were part of a close-knit group of three Muslim families that lived in the gated townhouse community.
KILLERS FLYING IN FIRST CLASS
All the gang - believed to have been led by Mohammed Atta, 32 - are thought to be well-educated Egyptians or Saudis. One, Waleed Al Shehri, was the son of a wealthy Saudi diplomat in the US.
To All Angry Americans
Then fully supported, FINANCED, and BACKED by PAKISTAN, and with AMERICA'S BLESSING, the Taleban were created. They brought an extremist form of Islam that is FOREIGN to our land. It came from that craphole across the border, Pakistan and from dirty camel humping Arab countries. Pakistan and ARAB countries SUPPORT the Taleban. America now denounces them, the rest of the world now denounces them. They took over 90% of Afghanistan thanks to PAKISTANI support and US's ignorance. NO Afghan considers them true Muslims or Afghans. They are dirty Pakis that have destroyed our nation even more, destroyed our cultural heritage and tried ERASING our history so Filthistan (Pakistan) could build a friend in us. We have always hated Pakistan since it's creation by British Puppets. They want a friend so they can use us to fight their dirty war against India in Kashmir.
Gallup Poll-Two-thirds of Pakistanis support Afghanistan over US
More than two-thirds of people in Pakistan think their government should side with Afghanistan rather than the United States if Washington attacks the neighbouring country, a Gallup poll said Wednesday.
Pakistani ex-general warns of uprising, war
Pakistan could erupt in popular protest, and India could be destabilised, if Karachi lets U.S. troops in to attack Afghanistan, the ex-head of Pakistani military intelligence said in remarks published on Monday. General Hameed Gul, a staunch Muslim deeply involved in helping Afghan Mujahideen fight the Soviet Union in the 1980s, told the newspaper Le Figaro that any plan to use Pakistan to help catch Saudi-born dissident Osama bin Laden would backfire.
Pakistan Muslims Say They Will Obey Afghan Jihad Order
The head of a grouping of 35 Pakistani Islamic organizations said Wednesday they would have to obey any Taliban order for a religious war if the United States attacked Afghanistan. Maulana Sami-ul Haq, chairman of the Pakistan and Defense Council that includes 35 pro-Taliban Islamic groups, warned Pakistan's military leader General Pervez Musharraf against backing the U.S. campaign against the Taliban and their ``guest'' Osama bin Laden.
Prejudice In Pakistan, According Paki Intelligence Israel behind bombings
And as the former head of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), its intelligence service, he had a key role in making Afghanistan what it is today ... It’s a truism that terrorists cannot function without the support of a state, and in the case of bin Laden he couldn’t function without the support of Afghanistan—and at least the tacit support of Pakistan as well. Afghanistan is not only land-locked, but surrounded by enemies—with the exception of Pakistan. Pakistan is the only way in or out of Afghanistan for bin Laden and his supporters, and if, as is widely believed, he is commanding and financing some 3,000 Arab soldiers in the 055 Arab Brigade, he needs a line of supply and that can only go through Pakistan. (Alternative routes, such as Iran and Tajikistan, are out of the question). Even air travel depends on crossing Pakistani air space, and there’s nothing to stop the Pakistanis from insisting on vetting the passenger rosters—something they have indeed done in the past.
Bin Laden Seen as Perfect Holy Warrior in Pakistan
Vilified by Washington, Osama bin Laden, prime suspect for the horrific attacks last week on the United States, is seen by many in Muslim Pakistan as a shining example of the perfect holy warrior.
Affluent Egyptians in Cairo Gloat Over Attacks While Eating Big Macs
Sitting under a poster advertising "Crispy and Delicious McWings," Radwa Abdallah, an 18-year-old university student, is explaining that she rejoiced when she learned that thousands of Americans had probably died in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. "Everyone celebrated," Ms. Abdallah says, as her girlfriends giggle. "People honked in the strets, cheering that finally America got what it truly deserved." Fellow student Raghda El Mahrouqi agrees: "I just hope there were a lot of Jews in that building," she says. Sherihan Ammar, an aspiring doctor in elaborate makeup and tight T-shirt, sums up her feelings this way: "America was just too full of itself," she says with a dismissive gesture.
'Don't burn our country for a bunch of terrorists'
"We, the real Afghans, were there and we were fighting for our own country. We were on that hill fighting to take it for three days and then Bin Laden and the Arabs arrived and they took it in just one and a half hours. They just ran up the hill, it was mined all over and they lost 150 men but they took it. They are suicide fighters, they have no fear."
Ground Zero and the Saudi connection
‘If the US wants to do something about radical Islam, it has to deal with Saudi Arabia. The “rogue states” [Iraq, Libya, etc.] are less important in the radicalisation of Islam than Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the single most important cause and supporter of radicalisation, ideologisation, and the general fanaticisation of Islam.’
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: STRANGE JUSTICE SUBSECTION: Judge Margaret Morrow Revised 11/18/99
8/28/98 Masood Haider DAWN (Pakistan) "The brother of Osama bin Laden is a director of a US telecom giant, Irridium LLC, according to reports. Although the Clinton administration has made Osama the world's most wanted man, the rest of the family does millions of dollars in business with the US, reports say. Sheikh Hasan bin Laden, one of Osama's many brothers in a Saudi family of immense wealth and far-flung enterprises, is listed by the Securities and Exchange Commission as a director of Iridium LLC, the New York newspaper Daily News said.."
Excerpts from "Hunting Bin Laden": Family, Biography, Chronology, An American Associate
On his death in 1968, Sheik Mohammed left behind not only an industrial and financial estate but also a progeny made up of no less than 54 sons and daughters, the fruit of a number of marriages ... Most of these brothers have different mothers and different nationalities as well ... Osama bin Laden is, incidentally, the only brother with a Saudi mother ... With over 40,000 employees, the bin Laden group in Egypt, managed by Abdul Aziz bin Laden, is that country's largest foreign private group ... All his contacts would happen through his brothers. The brothers would approach two members of the royal family who were fairly sympathetic to Osama. They were Ahmed bin Abdul Aziz, deputy minister of interior and Abdul Rahman bin Abdul Aziz, deputy minister of defense. He might have met them in few occasions but those meetings would have been purely social or accidental in one of his brother's houses. Specifically he had no relation with Turki al-Faisal head of Saudi intelligence ... Again there were no official relations with officials in Pakistani government. However, he had paramount respect by many Pakistanis including people in the army, intelligence and religious establishment. They were so penetrating that they would always leak any plan against him by the Pakistani-Saudi-American alliance ... It is needless to say that bin Laden has not had any relation with Iran. Iran knows that bin Laden is a committed Sunni and he regards Iran as Shi'a state ... Some of the brothers and sisters believed it was their religious duty to support this distinguished brother from their own money. While many are very careful not to irritate the royal family, many more do not care and insist on letting the money reach Osama ... 1979 Bin Laden graduates from King Abdul Aziz University in Jiddah with a degree in civil engineering.
Everyone in the US is bending over backwards to marginalize the type of Islam that Bin Laden's followers embrace. They want to give us the impression that they are a fringe group with few takers, other than madmen. But this is errant nonsense. You cannot have hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of adherents and still be called a fringe group. I would bet Bin Laden has more following him than the Mormons follow Smith. We may not like his Islam, but we must recognize that it is a very real pernicious form, but hardly a cult of a few zealots. Wherever there is Islam there will be a goodly number attracted to his message of PURE Islam. Do not be fooled; he has his Mullahs who are saying that every move he makes is godly. I would be willing to wager that he seeks the guidance of his personal Mullah prior to acting. This is one formidible enemy. He has planted seeds all over the world. He has nurtured his garden of terror with liberal influx of crucial funds.
We must search back very carefully into the agenda o fevery Muslim convention that has been held during the past ten years. Were there speakers having a connection to Bin Laden? How was he received? Was the speaker successful in setting up a cell?
A well trained, well financed, very determine, and anonymous enemy is a very scary force to confront.
I wish the US and the rest of the world well. But as much as we perceive themas evil, they see as infinitely more evil. We are the decadent devils, the spawn of Shaitana.
Shops in Peshawar and most other cities were closed -- some in support of the strike but many fearing protesters if they were seen to be ignoring the call. Karachi, the commercial hub of Pakistan, was virtually a ghost town. An armoured personnel carrier, 14 police vans and five trucks of paramilitary rangers ringed the U.S. consulate. Some 15,000 police had been put on duty to maintain law and order in the city of 11 million. "The city looked lifeless," said one resident of sprawling industrial port city of Karachi.
Chief Saudi spy fired before attack: 25-year official failed to deliver bin Laden to U.S.
Saudi Arabia's King Fahd fired his intelligence chief for suspected ties to alleged Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden, just days before hijacked U.S. airliners were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Only about two weeks before the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Ab'd Al-Mun'im Murad, a columnist in Al-Akhbar, a daily newspaper sponsored by the Egyptian government, wrote: "The conflict that we call the Arab-Israeli conflict is, in truth an Arab conflict with Western, and particularly American, colonialism. The U.S. treats [the Arabs] as it treated the slaves inside the American continent. To this end, [the U.S.] is helped by the smaller enemy, and I mean Israel."
Nor was this unusually candid acknowledgment the end of it. "The issue," declared the same writer in another piece, "no longer concerns the Israeli-Arab conflict. The real issue is the Arab-American conflict--Arabs must understand that the U.S. is not 'the American friend'--and its task, past, present, and future, is [to impose] hegemony on the world, primarily on the Middle East and the Arab world."
Then, in a third piece, also published in late August, Mr. Murad gave us an inkling of the reciprocal "task" he had in mind to be performed on America: "The Statue of Liberty, in New York Harbor, must be destroyed because of . . . the idiotic American policy that goes from disgrace to disgrace in the swamp of bias and blind fanaticism. . . . The age of the American collapse has begun."
As a policy debate rages at top levels in the Bush administration over attacking the regime of President Saddam Hussein, Egypt is moving to improve relations with Iraq ... Egypt has refused to participate in a U.S.-led military coalition against any Saudi billionaire fugitive Osama Bin Laden or any of his government sponsors.
We also need to revisit the myth of the "moderate" Arab countries. Most are moderate in only a relative sense, the way an opportunist like Franco was a moderate fascist in comparison to Hitler, or a wily Tito a moderate Communist as opposed to Stalin. We must accept the bitter truth that states like Palestine, Egypt, Syria, and others — despite American deference and occasional aid — are not our friends, much less our allies ... One of the more frustrating facets of the American media has been their reluctance (or inability) to show the grassroots celebration — going on in the streets of Palestine, Pakistan, Egypt, and other countries — of 6,000 American deaths.
Sales of T-shirts bearing the picture of Muslim militant Osama bin Laden have surged in Indonesia, home of the world's largest Islamic population, since Washington named him as its chief suspect in last week's attacks. ``Today, we sold twice as many as usual. It has been like this since (the U.S. accused bin Laden),'' Andi Cut Muthia, a 30-year-old mother of three who prints and distributes the shirts, told Reuters on Friday ... The $3 T-shirts come in three styles, one with the words ''Islam is my blood.''
One problem evident among the American public being the confusion between social thinking and political thinking. Social thinking is based upon emotions e.g. they are warm fuzzy, work hard, have proper relations with their families and are kind to their animals . "How can we harm them?"
Political thinking is based upon two factors, 5 % of the Moslems will hurl bombs; there is no known way to discriminate between the "Good Moslems" and the "Bad Moslems." The next great attack and Moslems must go. Mass expulsions must come. This course of action is naughty but necessary.
[T]hey come from 14 mostly Middle Eastern nations, such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Iran and Israel — and entered the United States on various kinds of visas and from all sides of the U.S. border. Others are from Algeria, India and Britain.
Arab League chief Amr Mussa warned here on Sunday after meeting with King Abdullah II that US strikes against any Arab states in retaliation for the September 11 terrorist attacks would be "unacceptable."
Trying to find our bearings, my husband and I went into an American-style cafe in the Hamra district, near Rue Verdun, rated as one of the most expensive shopping streets in the world. Here the cognitive dissonance was immediate, and direct. The café's sophisticated clientele was celebrating, laughing, cheering and making jokes, as waiters served hamburgers and Diet Pepsi. Nobody looked shocked, or moved. They were excited, very excited.
Ziad Samir Jarrah was born May 11, 1975, the only son in a prosperous, educated family. His father, Samir, 62, is a local government official; his mother, Nasisa, 57, is a schoolteacher ... he attended a technical university ... the young engineer would have had to live a double life worthy of a first-rate spy - concealing from his family, girlfriend, and friends that he was a Muslim extremist, not the religiously moderate, pro-American, fun-loving person they knew him to be ... Jarrah's family says they sent him $2,000 each month to pay for flight lessons. But last month, Jarrah did something unusual - he asked his parents for an extra $700, ''for fun.'' When he called home Sept. 9, he confirmed he had received $2,700. His family believes he wanted to use the extra cash to go to California, possibly to visit friends.
Among top lieutenants to Osama bin Laden, several are Egyptians, including a surgeon from Cairo who ranks second in the hierarchy of Mr. bin Laden's organization, Al Qaeda, and is seen by some intelligence experts as his most likely successor.
Many of the accounts lead back to one man - Mustafa Ahmed - an elusive character who is emerging as a crucial link between the Saudi exile Osama bin Laden and the perpetrators of the worst act of terrorism on American soil. FBI investigators believe Ahmed was the banker who helped distribute the finances for the operation, which is now believed to have cost $US200,000 ... CIA intelligence has established that Ahmed is operating out of the United Arab Emirates.
Pakistan said on Tuesday it would retain diplomatic ties with Afghanistan's Taliban rulers, the only country in the world still to do so, in order to give them a window to the outside world. "We should maintain contact, at least there should be one country who ought to be able to have an access to them, to be able to engage them," President Pervez Musharraf told reporters.
Before this attack, I would have said that America can only tolerate a small Islamic or Hindu population. Once they become a sizable minority, they will begin to militate for their own governments.
At the very least we should deport all on visas and halt the immigration of Muslims.
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