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US to take revenge without telling UN !
The Times ^ | 09/20/01 | ROLAND WATSON

Posted on 09/20/2001 2:26:20 PM PDT by Bald Eagle

US to take revenge without telling UN
FROM ROLAND WATSON IN WASHINGTON
AMERICA will exact military revenge on terrorists for years to come without consulting the United Nations, Washington made clear yesterday as it suggested that the 19 hijackers had been supported by several states.

Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, insisted on the United States’s right to a free hand when it came to force in the pursuit of individuals, networks and states implicated in the loss of more than 5,000 lives.

President Bush used a fresh tack to try to persuade Arab states traditionally wary of dealing with America to co-operate. He said they could share information with Washington covertly and their citizens would never know.

However, the White House’s rejection of the need for future UN consent raised concerns that Mr Bush was heading for immediate diplomatic trouble as he tries to piece together a shifting, multilayered pattern of alliances to support a global battle with terrorism lasting years.

China has said that it believes firm evidence should be laid before the UN before any military action. Russia has yet to show its hand on the issue, but US diplomats fear that Moscow will demand thorough discussion at the UN Security Council, where it holds a veto.

In another day of hectic diplomatic activity, Mr Bush met Megawati Sukarnoputri, President of Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country. Sitting side by side, he extended a new offer to leaders in Arab states, saying he would respect their local sensitivities in dealing with the US.

Although some moderate Middle Eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia have sympathised with the US after last week’s attacks, none has agreed to co-operate fully.

Mr Bush said he understood that some countries would be nervous of being seen to deal with their traditional foe. “I understand that,” he said, adding that they could share information in private.

The President said: “This will be a different kind of battle, a series of battles. They will be fought visibly sometimes, and sometimes we’ll never see what may be taking place.

“We fully understand that some nations will be comfortable supporting overt activities, some nations will be comfortable supporting covert activities, some nations will only be comfortable in providing information. Others will be helpful and only feel comfortable helping on financial matters.”

Washington widened its list of possible culprits yesterday, saying it believed that more than one overseas government may have supported the suicide hijackers.

John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, said it was “pretty clear” that a “variety of foreign governments” were involved in supporting and protecting “the networks that conduct these kind of events”.

Mr Ashcroft, visiting the blackened rubble of the Pentagon, said that those governments should understand that “America will not tolerate that kind of support”.

American intelligence suspects a possible Iraqi link to last week’s attacks, based on a meeting between Mohammed Atta, the hijacker believed to be at the controls of the first jet to smash into the World Trade Centre, and the head of Bagdhad’s intelligence service earlier this year. But Mr Ashcroft pointedly referred to governments in the plural.



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To: Bald Eagle
I guess we should notify the UN of our ever move. We should give it our strike list and have it approved 48 hours prior to any action – it will give the "innocent civilians" a chance to clear the area. (/sarcasm)
21 posted on 09/20/2001 3:14:59 PM PDT by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott
"I guess we should notify the UN of our ever move. We should give it our strike list and have it approved 48 hours prior to any action – it will give the "innocent civilians" a chance to clear the area. (/sarcasm)"

Sarcasm noted, however the sad part is that whhat you have stated above is in fact true thanks to our media reporting every little move that we intend to make or that they think we intend to make...at least Bush was smart enough to start blacking out the media on national security moves. I say we put Tom Blowchow and some of the other left wing media liberals in an unarmed jeep clearly marked with USA emblems and send it dashing through afghanistan as our boys watch to find out where the little suckers are hiding.

23 posted on 09/20/2001 3:24:06 PM PDT by Bald Eagle
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To: piasa
The UN already laid waste to the last bit of credibility they had with that absurdity of a meeting on racism in Durban.

On the contrary, they established their "credibility" perfectly when SecGen failed to abort that kangaroo session.

24 posted on 09/20/2001 3:25:18 PM PDT by Diojneez
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To: Bald Eagle
Top Ten Reason's not to work with the UN: (should be on the Letterman Show but isn't).

10. Blue Helmets that can be seen at and shot from 1000 yds.

9. UN Durban conference was as full of anti US/Jew hatred as the Taliban.

8. Peacekeeper just sounds like a wussie.

7. Would have to see Madeline UNbright's ugly face on TV every other hour.

6. We pay them billions of dollars a year to things that we can do ourselves.

5. 4. and 3. Somalia, Kosovo, and Korea

2. The possibility of being under the command of the French who've been on a losing streak since Waterloo.

and the number one reason for not working with the UN. 1. THEY'RE THE UN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

25 posted on 09/20/2001 3:28:20 PM PDT by pulaskibush
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
bushtheelder didn't do jack unless it was cleared by the u.n. I guess we'll see if bushtheyounger lets dad do his thinking.
27 posted on 09/20/2001 3:52:56 PM PDT by IRtorqued
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To: Bald Eagle
AMERICA will exact military revenge on terrorists for years to come without consulting the United Nations

I wouldn't tell them anything. The whole operation would undoubtably become compromised.

28 posted on 09/20/2001 3:57:07 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Bald Eagle
Good. Now if only we could get the U.S. to take their frustrations out but burying the U.N.
29 posted on 09/20/2001 3:57:42 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (cold@gateway.net)
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To: Bald Eagle
ITs a nice title for an article but is it really the start of a break away from the UN?

I think people are wising up. How much remains to be seen.

30 posted on 09/20/2001 3:58:08 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
bump
31 posted on 09/20/2001 4:00:36 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: enderwiggnz
if we're going to do this, it has to be done .properly.

You're a really funny guy.

32 posted on 09/20/2001 4:01:58 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Bald Eagle
"However, the White House’s rejection of the need for future UN consent."

A step in the correct direction. The UN represents the enemies of this country. Get the US out of the UN!

33 posted on 09/20/2001 4:03:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: Bald Eagle
And we all know how effective the UN is considering the wonderful job they did it averting the massacre in Rwanda, NOT!!!!!
34 posted on 09/20/2001 4:04:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bald Eagle
It's not vengeance. The Commander In Chief and staff recognize it's time to kill in self-defense; for national security. Godspeed to them and our military.
35 posted on 09/20/2001 4:06:41 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: Bald Eagle
Clinton was so chummy with the UN it will be difficult for Bush to establish any relationship that won't anger the self-appointed arbiters of international justice at the UN.

UN to Taliban over the years, "can't we all just get along.": Clinton's final gift to GW?Dec.20, 2000...give us Osama in 30 days (inaugeration day) or else! Tough talk, little action. Osama yawned.

36 posted on 09/20/2001 4:07:53 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Bald Eagle
Great news!
You would think that we would have learned thirty years ago when we filled in the UN "security council" on our plans in Vietnam, only to have the "security council" tip off the NVA.
37 posted on 09/20/2001 4:09:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Bald Eagle
Oh, I'd just be sick if they started talking
bad about us at the U.N. ..
(/sarcasm)
38 posted on 09/20/2001 4:12:44 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: pulaskibush
"2. The possibility of being under the command
of the French who've been on a losing streak since Waterloo"
Don't even think it!!!
Freakin' surrender monkeys...
40 posted on 09/20/2001 4:17:05 PM PDT by humblegunner
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