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To: GREYGOST
Sure they were imploded...By a fuel/air bomb flown by nuts! and full of our good people......
18 posted on 09/20/2001 1:22:43 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Who Is Osama bin Laden?
Wealthy Saudi exile is a suspected terrorist mastermind

by David Johnson

Considered the world's foremost terrorist, Osama bin Laden is a leading suspect in the horrific Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center. He has, however, denied involvement in the attack, but through an aide called it "punishment from Allah."

Bin Laden has been implicated in a string of deadly attacks on the United States and its allies: the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; the 1998 bombings at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 200; and the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen. Bin Laden also claims responsibility for a 1993 gunfight that killed 18 U.S. troops in Somalia and the 1996 bombing of the Khobar military complex in Saudi Arabia that left 19 U.S. soldiers dead.

Born with a silver spoon
Bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia around 1957 to a family of Yemeni origins. His father, Mohammed bin Laden, founded a construction company, and with royal patronage, became a billionaire. The company's connections won it such important commissions as rebuilding mosques in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

Mohammed bin Laden took many wives and fathered about 50 children. Osama was the 17th son, born to a later wife. In a society where status within a family is highly important, bin Laden would therefore have been of relatively low rank within the huge family.

Bin Laden studied management and economics at King Abdul Aziz University in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, coming under the influence of religious teachers who introduced him to the wider world of Islamic politics.

The 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan galvanized bin Laden. He supported the Afghan resistance, which became a jihad, or holy war. Ironically, the U.S. became a major supporter of the Afghan resistance, or mujahideen, working with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to set up Islamic schools in Pakistan for Afghan refugees. These schools later evolved into virtual training centers for Islamic radicals. Some analysts have said that bin Laden even received CIA training.

By the mid-1980s, bin Laden had moved to Afghanistan, where he established an organization, Maktab al-Khidimat (MAK), to recruit Islamic soldiers from around the world who later form the basis of an international network. The MAK maintained recruiting offices in Detroit and Brooklyn in the 1980s.

An International Network
After the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia and worked in his family's construction business. He founded an organization to help veterans of the Afghan war, many of whom went on to fight in Bosnia, Chechnya, Somalia, and the Philippines. Scholars have suggested these loosely connected bands of seasoned soldiers, ready to fight for Islamic causes, form the basis of bin Laden's current support.

In 1990, in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the Saudi government allowed American troops to be stationed in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden was incensed that non-believers (American soldiers), were allowed to pollute the birthplace of Islam. He also charged the Saudi regime with deviating from true Islam.

Bin Laden was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991 because of his anti-government activities. He eventually wound up in Sudan, where he worked with Egyptian radical groups in exile.

Anti-U.S. Attacks
In 1992 bin Laden claimed responsibility for attempting to bomb U.S. soldiers in Yemen and for attacking U.S. troops in Somalia the following year. In 1994, pressure from the U.S. and Saudi Arabia prompted Sudan to expel bin Laden, and he returned to Afghanistan.

In 1998 bin Laden called for all Americans and Jews, including children, to be killed. He has since been accused of increasing his terrorist activities, including the 1998 bombings at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which left 226 dead, including 12 Americans. The date, Aug. 7, was the anniversary of the deployment of U.S. troops to Saudi Arabia.

U.S. cruise missile attacks against targets in the Sudan and Afghanistan in Aug. 1998 are not believed to have seriously hampered bin Laden's network. Bin Laden continues to call for the destruction of the U.S., Israel, and the Saudi monarchy, stating that with these obstacles removed, Islam's three holiest sites, Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem, would then be liberated.

International terrorist network
Yet, even as he is reviled in the West, bin Laden is a hero in parts of the Islamic world, according to intelligence reports. His organization is called Al Qaeda, "the Base," and has an estimated 3,000 followers, which he funds with his estimated $250 million fortune. Experts have said bin Laden could represent a new trend in terrorism—privatization. Until his emergence, most large-scale terrorist organizations are believed to have been connected to governments. However, with his money and disciplined followers, bin Laden is believed to have the ability to launch even more devastating terrorist attacks. He has not denied that he is seeking nuclear or chemical weapons, saying that it is a religious duty to defend Islam.

Bin Laden has been disowned by most of his family, including a brother, Sheik Bakr Mohammed bin Laden, who has established scholarship funds at Harvard Law School, and the Harvard School of Design. In 1991 his Saudi citizenship was revoked.

19 posted on 09/20/2001 1:31:37 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: wirestripper
I will assume you have a high school degree and know something of chemistry. I'll do my best here but your level of education may block your feelings.

First in order to have a fireball, the fire needs oxygen to ignite the fuel. Now, seeing the WTC video, you will notice that flames exploded away from the buildings. This occured because there was sufficient oxygen outside rather than inside the building. Seeing the flames from your vantage point proves that there was not sufficient oxygen inside the building to fire the fuel and provide the catalyst for sufficient heat to melt the steel girders holding up the WTC.

If oxygen was available inside the building, it would have exploded out the windows rather than smolder and create thick black smoke. (Ever seen the movie Backdraft!) Now, please explain in your own words to me here on this forum how such an unlikely event as a plane hitting a tall building would cause the building to collapse in on itself like it was being imploded. And, if you have additional time, explain how just such an event could happen twice at the same place and at the same hour when the facts clearly show that the buildings although identical in construction were not hit in the same, identical place on their exterior skin. And while you are at it, please explain how the second building hit was the first to go down methodically down I might add. Have you ever witnessed an implosion like those hotels in Las Vegas?

24 posted on 09/20/2001 2:34:07 AM PDT by GREYGOST
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