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No U.S. ship was refused port. It was the U.S. navy that refused to disclose whether they are carrying nuclear arms by their neither confirm or deny policy. So the crux of the ANZUS disagreement was not about being a good ally but about the U.S. objection to New Zealand's nuclear-free policy. We in New Zealand are pretty proud of our nuclear-free status. And thereafetr New Zealand was not allowed to play with Big Brother. As for your friend and his comment that we are all leftist, it is very easy to put labels on people. Besides what is wrong with the left ? In any democracy you have left and right and middle and all sort ... that is what makes a democracy great.

I guess it is a little bit like the chicken or the egg but I am sure the Americans had a policy of not telling if their ships were nuclear armed way before NZ began its policy and since they knew the American position, they also knew it would in effect bar all U.S. Navy ships.

I have a real problem with liberalism or socialism. The problem is they are inherently evil. Not to say all liberals are evil but they must either be evil or mistaken.

the nuclear free zone is more than a little selfish too, although foolishly so. The idea is that by not allowing nuclear weapons you will not be attacked by them yet will still enjoy the benefits of being protected by the U.S., tho you would claim that you do not want the protection.

As far as cleaning toilets for the Japanese, I doubt you would be alive to even do that if not for the American Navy.

One more thing.

The U.S. either does or has fed the World. I know NZ is not a third world nation and probably exports mutton but much of the world would have starved without U.S. help.

Besides what is wrong with the left ?

While I have supported several other NZ'ers on this thread I can not support your above statement. One only has to look at your failing economy and the thousands of Kiwi's fleeing your country because of the policies of your leftists. Sorry, but leftists do not contribute to a democracy!

Instead, their actions bring a democracy to its knees and allow socialists/communists such as your PM Clark to assume power, destroy the infrastructure via the promise of government handouts/protection and then force the hard working producers of your country to pay for all your socialist handouts only to assure their re-election.

The leftists are the blood sucking leaches of society and need to be eradicated!

So tell me Mr. Leftist, why are the educated so eager to leave NZ and are doing so in droves????????