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To: DallasDeb
Well, DallasDeb, I am looking in the mirror, and its not a pretty site, but I just can't find the racial characteristics of an Arab there. I do see the typical American mongrel, a mixture of various European ethnic groups. Sorry, can't accept the Arab tag and I am sorry I have only been a member since 9-13-2001. If that is the only basis for your arguments...

Why is it, if you criticise Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite? Why is anti-semitism the first cry out of the mouths of the Israeli corner. Methinks I see hysteria there and a realization that if the truth about the actions of the Israeli government were covered by the media they might lose some of their precious American dollars. Yes, there has been anti-semitic feeling in every country the Jews have been in. Many innocent Jews have been killed, but the question has to be asked: Why have the Jews been disliked in whatever country they lived in? It is a legitimate question and it is not anti-semitic; however, that word like the cry of racisim is much used and abused.

94 posted on 09/19/2001 12:09:02 PM PDT by littlehammer
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To: littlehammer
#94: First, where did I call you an anti-semite? I called you an Arab [as in sympathizer].

Why have the Jews been disliked in whatever country they lived in?

Do you really want to know? You probably won't believe it if you have no Judeo/Christian faith. It requires a belief in God and Satan.

You've heard it before that the Jews are God's Chosen People. They are. And because they are, Satan, who wants to be god, tries constantly to subvert God's plans and pervert God's intentions. Satan knew the Christ was to be born, so he (through Herod) tried to kill all the young males. He didn't succeed. Satan also had a hand in the death of Yeshua; but he didn't succeed there, either, because Christ rose from the dead. Throughout the ages, Satan has tried to destroy the Jews, the Chosen People. God still has a covenant to fulfill with the Jews. If Satan can destroy them which, in his pride he believes he can do and keeps trying to accomplish, then he will have subverted God's plan.

See, I told you you wouldn't believe it. But consider this: why WOULD "every country" hate the Jews? They have done NOTHING to deserve hatred by "all" of mankind. Doesn't that prove that there is some underlying satanic influence? Now the US is under attack, possibly because of our alliance with Israel. So, now Satan's presence is evident in the US. There will be more attacks. It will continue to worsen for the entire world until it culminates in the return of Yeshua. The signs are everywhere if you dare to study Biblical end-time prophecy.

146 posted on 09/19/2001 4:04:01 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: littlehammer,DallasDeb
Why is it, if you criticise Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite? Why is anti-semitism the first cry out of the mouths of the Israeli corner. Methinks I see hysteria there and a realization that if the truth about the actions of the Israeli government were covered by the media they might lose some of their precious American dollars. Yes, there has been anti-semitic feeling in every country the Jews have been in. Many innocent Jews have been killed, but the question has to be asked: Why have the Jews been disliked in whatever country they lived in? It is a legitimate question and it is not anti-semitic; however, that word like the cry of racisim is much used and abused.

When you mention 'disliked in all countries,' you seem to border on racism, since you are generalizing, maybe too much. However, I agree that anti-Israel does not equal anti-Semitic.

Actually, many of the claims that Jews have always been mistreated and disliked is overstated. Until very recently in the history of civilization, most religions and most races were very intolerant toward eachother, and human life was cheap. The Jews were most often minorities, and were clannish, as were many peoples. Given the racist, intolerant and violent additudes espoused by practically everyone back then, it is not suprising or particularly unique that Jews (and other minoritiy religions/races) were picked on.

when you look at historical dislike of Jews, you really have to keep in mind the context.

Here's an interesting quote from the science fiction book "Holy Fire" by Bruce Sterling, referring to the plight and persecution of the Gypsies (aka the Romany):

"If the Romany weren't complete racial chauvinists themselves, then we'd have absorbed the last one of them centuries ago."

I think the comment is relevant to Jews (and many other groups), but mostly in the historical context. Today, in America, a huge percentage of Jews marry non-Jews. If I remember correctly I heard that 30% of Jews marry non-Jews, and the number is growing.

180 posted on 09/19/2001 8:19:18 PM PDT by bubbalovesyou
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