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To: a_Turk
When Emperor Justinian closed the schools in Athens in 529, many of the teachers moved east to Syria, taking their books with them. There the works of Aristotle and many of the Neoplatonists were translated into Syriac and, later, into Arabic. These works were to return to Western Europe centuries later in the hands of Islamic thinkers.

Good try Turk: "Turks spread Civilization," is it? Anywhere Islamic Armies rested for 15 minutes has been a hellhole for 500 years afterward. Why, oh why, my young Turk, do you think those marvelous Syriac scholars decamped?

It was because Muslims were slaughtering them in their thousands ... and anyone else in the formerly Christian Middle East and Egypt and Libya, and Tunisia and Morocco who wouldn't convert!

Islamic culture had 2 good academic centuries based on what they found in the ruins of the places they converted and in the libraries of those they had so enthusiastically slain for Allah. But Islam has never had an Awakening, a Renaissance, an Enlightenment, or what they need most right now, a religious Reformation. Where is Islamic literature; Islamic music; Islamic philosophy; Islamic Science; your personal freedoms in Islamic lands today?

Do Christendom some more favors, take yourself and your co-religionists East of the Euros River and remain forever in Islam. You are not going to be the great thinker that synthesizes Islam and Western thought, because Islam is a dead end in human mental development, which at the very most, can be rendered harmless to those who do not accept its theology. The founder of modern Turkey, Ataturk, knew this. He knew that the people of Turkey could not advance in civilization unless Islam were strictly controlled in Turkey and never allowed to dominate the government of political processes.

That is simply because Islam does not tolerate those who do not accept its theology, and in fact, clearly calls for their deaths. And please don't tell me your "Moderate" fantasy. (You will spare us the claptrap about Jihad being an "inner struggle, won't you? You see, people who belong to my church are being killed by the hundreds of thousands by people who belong to yours.) Go preach it in the streets of Mecca, Medina, Kabul and Khartoum.

31 posted on 10/28/2001 5:25:58 PM PST by Francohio
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To: Francohio
I have only belonged to this forum for a few days, but have already made the acquaintances of quite a number of folks who are just as foul and intransigent as the followers of Bin Laden.

I think we should put all you bigots (you know who you are) together with Osama's bigots into a stadium, give you all weapons and let you murder each other.

But you'd rather sit here on your fat duffs and cackle.
33 posted on 10/29/2001 1:54:40 PM PST by a_Turk
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