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They’re Still Counting: The world has changed, but the recount goes on
National Review Online ^ | September 18, 2001 | Byron York

Posted on 09/18/2001 9:13:19 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob

One of the unnoticed after-effects of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington has been a delay in the planned release of the last — and largest — media recount of presidential election returns in Florida. Though it seems strange to contemplate today, as George W. Bush goes about his business as commander in chief, under different circumstances this week would likely have seen a high-profile attempt to renew the question of his legitimacy as president.

Before the events of September 11, editors at a consortium of blue-chip news organizations — the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, CNN, and others — were in the final stages of work on their analysis of voting in Florida's 67 counties. "We were pretty much homing in [on publication]," says Dan Keating, who is running the project for the Washington Post. Now, the work is on hold, with the newspapers and networks hanging on to the story until a better time. "At this point, I think it's safe to say that this is not what the world is focused on," Keating says.

But whatever happens in coming weeks, the news organizations will have to fight the overwhelming sense that the story, in which they invested hundreds of thousands of dollars, is so...over. The country is facing an unprecedented crisis, Bush is president, buoyed by wartime approval ratings of 80-plus percent, and Al Gore has all but disappeared from the national scene. If anyone other than Democratic National Committee chief Terry McAuliffe and the editors of the New York Times are interested in the issue of hanging chads, they are not saying so.

It's not the outcome originally envisioned for the project, which was born in the heat of the election controversy and scheduled for completion several months ago. "There was some thought that it would only take ten weeks to wrap it up," says Julie Antelman, a spokeswoman for the National Opinion Research Center, which was hired by the consortium to do the actual vote counting. "But once it started it became obvious that that couldn't happen."

That's an understatement. Even though NORC assigned 153 "coders" — vote counters — to the project, the ballot analysis dragged on and on. There were problems getting access to the ballots. There were problems devising the best system for categorizing clues to voters' intent in ballots rejected during the original count. And as the "coding" went on, other media recounts, including the Miami Herald count that perhaps best reproduced actual conditions at the time of the election, showed that Bush would have won Florida under almost every conceivable scenario.

In addition, the fact that the big-media recount has taken so long — it is now more than ten months after Election Day — indicates that the mantra of "count every vote," whatever it might have meant to Gore's supporters, was not a practical possibility at the time of the election. Would Democrats prefer that the count still be going on today? The delays in the media recount are another indication that the vote counting that was done at the time, under the rules in place at the time, was the best indicator of who actually won.

All of that, together with the overwhelming events of the moment, make it likely that we won't see any front-page recount stories anytime soon. The news organizations are stuck with a very expensive story that has become a relic of an earlier time. The world has changed, and they are struggling with the realization that their meticulous inspection of hanging chads simply doesn't matter anymore.


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To: white rose
"This one line says it all."

Yes, it points back to the Supreme Court's concern about the lack of consistent standards during the recount. Once you get away from counting only clearly punched ballots, you enter the area of pure subjectivity and partisan manipulation of the results.
21 posted on 09/18/2001 9:57:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: AnotherTime
Your vast majority has been shown in numerous polls to be less than 1/3rd and in some cases less than 20%.
23 posted on 09/18/2001 9:59:30 AM PDT by PortugeeJoe
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To: AnotherTime
What better time to proclaim loudly and often that Bush actually won?

No comment needed.

24 posted on 09/18/2001 10:01:56 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: PortugeeJoe
The "vast majority" of about 25-30% pretty much corresponds to the number of partisan Democrats in the populace.
25 posted on 09/18/2001 10:02:40 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: AnotherTime
I guess you missed the inauguration.heh heh
26 posted on 09/18/2001 10:04:21 AM PDT by linn37
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To: AnotherTime
Thank you! You are admitting the press is liberal. Dosn't it feel good that off your chest.
27 posted on 09/18/2001 10:04:45 AM PDT by folklore
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To: AnotherTime
"...A lot has changed in the past week, but the fact that the vast majority of this country considers Bush illegitimate has not, and will not. The poll numbers reflect the taking of the high road by the Democrats. Nothing else..."

And yet, even though your boy "got more votes", etc., that wily coyote 'W' sits in the White House.

And the way he let algore remain stranded in Austria last week... Ouch!

That's got to make you feel so Impotent, LOL!

28 posted on 09/18/2001 10:13:50 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: AnotherTime
If this is true, why is not being shouted from the rooftops? What better time to proclaim loudly and often that Bush actually won? Oh, I forgot, he didn't.

Al, is that you ? Sorry the GOP scum stole the election from you Al, really.

29 posted on 09/18/2001 10:16:21 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: DWSUWF
bttt
30 posted on 09/18/2001 10:17:29 AM PDT by Angelwood
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To: AnotherTime
Most people KNOW that Bush actually won. Moreover, as of one week ago today, now they know WHY he won. And they are glad. I've heard many Democrat friends admit that they are relieved Gore is not in the White House at such a time. The only reason I could get out of them was, "He's a wanker. And so was Clinton. He would have let loose one symbolic bomb then asked for his blow job!" The jig is up, pal. You are now in a minority of 13% in this country -- the rest know Bush is THE President, and a damn GOOD President at that! Perhaps you can now go to the 13%ers forum... and stop stinking up this one!
32 posted on 09/18/2001 10:21:25 AM PDT by Jerez
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To: Jerez
Most people KNOW that Bush actually won. Moreover, as of one week ago today, now they know WHY he won.

That is a great line.

"He would have let loose one symbolic bomb then asked for his blow job!"

That was just plain funny.

33 posted on 09/18/2001 10:33:31 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover
bump
34 posted on 09/18/2001 10:41:59 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob (sssbobs@yahoo.com)
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To: Sideshow Bob
There were problems devising the best system for categorizing clues to voters' intent in ballots rejected during the original count.

Whatabunchaidiots. How are they "divining" clues? Who wants to bet that almost every rejected ballot ends up in AlGore's column?

35 posted on 09/18/2001 10:42:47 AM PDT by fnord
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To: fnord
bump
36 posted on 09/18/2001 11:08:01 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: AnotherTime
You're quite the liar, aren't you?
37 posted on 09/18/2001 11:10:03 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: AnotherTime
...illegitimate Repug President...

James Carville, is that you? Please leave Mary's computer alone, and tell your drooling handlers at the DumbAsCrap National Committee that your mission here has failed.

38 posted on 09/18/2001 11:40:07 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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To: Sideshow Bob

'Nuff Said!

39 posted on 09/18/2001 11:53:12 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: Sideshow Bob
. There were problems devising the best system for categorizing clues to voters' intent in ballots rejected during the original count.

IMHO, the problem was that any competent statistical analysis of the punch card ballots would prove that there was massive ballot tampering by Gore operatives and the purpose of this excercise was to pre-empt a serious investigation. The disturbing part is it almost worked and there is no penalty for voter fraud, even though Gore and company almost pulled off a successful coup via punch card ballots and other means of voter fraud on a nationwide scale.

Gore won approximately 600 counties out of 3000(Bush won 2400), yet he supposedly "won" the popular vote. If that doesn't fail the smell test, I don't know what does.

40 posted on 09/18/2001 11:53:23 AM PDT by honway
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