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The premise of the article is incorrect. From that, all manner of nonsense follows.

While it is true that certain Christian prelates and clerical groups have aligned themselves with various anti-freedom movements, this is a far cry from saying that American Christians have turned their faces against freedom. Hierarchies, including the hierarchies of religious organizations, always have more common interests with one another than they do with individuals. As a non-religious example, consider how friendly the Fortune 1000 companies have been to ever more restrictive government regulation of commerce.

Christ's message was antihierarchical, even radical. He steadfastly refused to talk politics. He told us that our salvation was in our own hands and no one else's, that the priests could not deny us the Face of God by denying us admission to the Temple. If the hierarchies have forgotten this, or have conveniently chosen to ignore it in the interests of their own power and prestige, so much worse for the hierarchies. Their worldly stature will not save them.

Christ did not say, "No man shall come to the Father except through the Roman Catholic Church," or through any other hierarchical organization. He said, "No man shall come to the Father except through Me." That's why the religious hierarchy of His time hated Him so! Just a reminder to prelates everywhere, and to those who think that hierarchical altitude guarantees either sanctity or correctness.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

8 posted on 09/18/2001 5:46:41 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: fporretto; Israel
"Christ's message was antihierarchical, even radical. He steadfastly refused to talk politics. He told us that our salvation was in our own hands and no one else's, that the priests could not deny us the Face of God by denying us admission to the Temple. If the hierarchies have forgotten this, or have conveniently chosen to ignore it in the interests of their own power and prestige, so much worse for the hierarchies. Their worldly stature will not save them.

Christ did not say, "No man shall come to the Father except through the Roman Catholic Church," or through any other hierarchical organization. He said, "No man shall come to the Father except through Me." That's why the religious hierarchy of His time hated Him so! Just a reminder to prelates everywhere, and to those who think that hierarchical altitude guarantees either sanctity or correctness."

Well said fporretto; Israel you know not of what you speak. It may not be public but plenty is being said within the walls of our worship building and you should know that our Bible tells us that we are HIS church as believers not buildings, not pastors.

My group's pastor gave a very stirring message about the love of God last Sunday. How we are commanded to love one another and to pray (heap coals on their heads; I'm sure you know that implication) for our enemies.

At the same time in a study ongoing I was compelled to state how I personally was pretty independent and would be more inclined to agree to disagree rather than just follow along with any edict the "church" elders put forth.

People who blindly follow along are similar to those who let little girls get rocks thrown at them on their way to school or fly planes into buildings for a ticket to paradise. These leaders are going to be accountable and seemingly have no clue as to what being Christ like is or what living a life that reflects a loving God.

May He have Mercy on all our souls.

9 posted on 09/18/2001 6:21:40 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind
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To: fporretto

Who Needs Enemies?  Christians Have Clergy!

What part do modern minister have in Israel?  Tend to your own house.  With "men" like these during the revolutionary war, America would still be a colony.  But then, we repented of that rebellion during the last election, didnt we?

So this is what the apostate churches are up to (Ba'al be praised, too):

A worthless bunch.  First Falwell says national evil is punishable by Law.  Then, its not the right time.  No wonder the teaching of the law shall come from Jerusalem.  Perhaps guilt explains their silence.  The churches have something to be afraid of.
 
10 posted on 09/18/2001 7:00:56 AM PDT by Israel
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