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'Don't ask me to kill ... or to die' (This is our Military?)
Lar Larson Show KXL Radio - Portland Ore | 9/17/01 | LAURA VILLANI (PFC Oregon National Guard)

Posted on 09/17/2001 2:31:41 PM PDT by SAMWolf

'Don't ask me to kill ... or to die'

I am a 19-year-old college student. I joined the Oregon National Guard two months before I turned 18.

I write about the possibility of war. I am still in shock about everything that has happened. I want the people responsible to pay for their crimes.

And those are the only people who should pay.

If we go to war, it will be my generation that will have to go. America will ask us to give up our dreams and to die for our country. We will be asked to leave our loved ones, to leave our educations and to die alongside our brothers, sisters and friends.

Please don't ask us to do this. I am not afraid to defend my country, but I am afraid for my country. Enough people have died already. Please don't ask me to kill others or to die myself in the name of revenge.

LAURA VILLANI, Private first class, Pendleton


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To: Squantos
Finally found the Army:

1042nd Medical Company (Air Ambulance) and thisCavalry (Armor) Units in Oregon.

181 posted on 09/17/2001 4:16:49 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: SAMWolf
Laura does not know the history of our nation and the brave men and women that have laid down their lives for freedom. She doesn't know the difference between revenge and freedom.

Our son was an Army Ranger, he was willing to die for this country and the freedom we hold so dear. Some of his friends did. He told us while he was in the Army that women should not be there that they would be the cause of many deaths.

Maybe Laura should just drop out and go home to her mom and dad and grow up.

182 posted on 09/17/2001 4:17:18 PM PDT by sam I am
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To: SAMWolf
What the heck did she join for?Its like saying I wont a job but do not want to work. Tell her the welfare roll has changed.There are those who died before her so she could have freedom. Now she does not want to do her part.
183 posted on 09/17/2001 4:18:46 PM PDT by gunnedah (Gunnedah)
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To: DallasDeb
Thanks for sharing the two messages. Very inspiring.
184 posted on 09/17/2001 4:19:30 PM PDT by The Thin Man
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To: razorback-bert
Notice at the top of the linked Medevac page.

Loyalty, Integrity, Pride and Professionalism.

She obviously has none of theses attributes.

185 posted on 09/17/2001 4:20:21 PM PDT by Right Face
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To: SAMWolf
What do you mean the older generation made sacrifices for them? Jesse told me that I am a AARP leech that is ruining his wonderful life style.
187 posted on 09/17/2001 4:21:22 PM PDT by Ol'Grey Head
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To: LurkedLongEnough
I live in Portland and there are a lot of patriots here. Unfortunately there are a bunch of pansy ass liberals also.
188 posted on 09/17/2001 4:23:40 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: glock rocks
G.I. Jane and Starship Troopers come to mind....
189 posted on 09/17/2001 4:27:26 PM PDT by motzman
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To: zoyd
First off - her letter is horrible and yes, she should immediately receive a dishonorable discharge. I started thinking about all the fun, exciting, advertisements I have heard in recent years, "In the Army National Guard, You Can.."

From the Oregon National Guard Homepage:

Join us for 2 days a month, 2 weeks in the Summer and take advantage of:

Pay: Monthly drill pay, active duty pay (during Basic Training, Advanced Individual Training, and Annual Training).
Money for College: GI Bill, State/Federal Tuition Assistance Programs, Student Loan Repayment and more.
Cash Enlistment Bonus: Pays $8000 to qualified soldiers.
Student Loan Repayment Program: Helps repay your student loans (for qualified soldiers).
Retirement: 20 years service = $$ + Benefits.
VA Home Loan Program: You may qualify for the VA Home Loan Program as a member of the Oregon Army National Guard.
Serviceman's Group Life Insurance: Up to $200,000 of life insurance.
Space Available Travel: Free travel on military aircraft.
Become a Commissioned Officer: You may decide to become an officer through the Oregon Military Academy or the "Gold Program at on of our state colleges.
Training: Enhance your life or career with both active and inactive duty training. Get a CDL, computer skills or paramedic training. The list of skills we offer is lengthy.
Jobs: No matter if you prefer office work, shop work or night vision enhanced attacks we have both full and part time openings.
Eligibility Form: Tell us about you.
For more information contact SFC Kerzman kerry.kerzman@or.ngb.army.mil

When you advertise Club Med....somehow I would guess a lot of recruits don't read the (for qualified soldiers) line.

190 posted on 09/17/2001 4:31:19 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
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191 posted on 09/17/2001 4:32:59 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: anniegetyourgun
Another indication that women have no business in combat positions.

My thoughts exactly. Also, there won't be all those wonderful things you don't want to give up, if you don't defend them, babe.

192 posted on 09/17/2001 4:39:06 PM PDT by germanshepherd
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Another indication that women have no business in combat positions."

Exactly! For America's sake, I hope they revoke that policy before any action is taken. We can ill afford to have any weaknesses in our front lines.

193 posted on 09/17/2001 4:40:19 PM PDT by lormand
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To: Terriergal
RE# 94 "You can't fault her for not knowing those things yet... about the only thing that will convince people like this will be her witnessing that American spirit of patriotism and self-sacrifice in action, if they will be convinced at all."

I was still 17 when I signed up in early 1967, and I knew it was a dangerous job when I took it. I feel pity and shame for the parents of this child.

194 posted on 09/17/2001 4:42:43 PM PDT by The Real Deal
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To: gunnedah
Everybody likes the taste of cake, but nobody wants to bake it.

I tried to get into the Air Force and the Army out of high school. Unfortunately, I am blind in one eye and couldn't get them to take me.

I sit here spitting a$$ mad that I can't do anything to kill a few of the f'ers that did this, and she' a whiney little freeloading b*tch of a worthless sack of maggot filled cowflop.

They should throw her in a hole and crap on her until she suffocates.

I have never gotten along with my grandfather too well, but the one thing I respect him for is his service. He was in the Pacific, and he came home with a kamikaze bullet hole in his jacket. He manned a gun until the barrel got so hot it warped. He said he still doesn't know how it kept firing, but there was no time to change it. Nobody on his boat thought they were coming home, and fought like demons anyway. When he came home, he became a preacher and sold his rifle, because he couldn't stand it.

Which is fine, because he'd already done his part.

195 posted on 09/17/2001 4:44:48 PM PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: SAMWolf
If we go to war, it will be my generation that will have to go. America will ask us to give up our dreams and to die for our country. We will be asked to leave our loved ones, to leave our educations and to die alongside our brothers, sisters and friends.

Stupid *itch. The idea is to make the other person die. What does she think the gerations that proceeded her did? AAGGRRHH!

196 posted on 09/17/2001 4:46:45 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: SAMWolf,racebannon
This young women should resign from the guard. She's a disgrace. She obviously signed up just for the benefits...she has no idea of service to her country..
198 posted on 09/17/2001 4:48:07 PM PDT by Dutchy
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To: ldakers
"You know, women are perfectly qualified for a majority of combat positions -- some even more qualified than the men who currently hold them".

Get real. You have obviously been watching to many Hollywood movies, as most men even shudder and are put to their absolute limits under real combat.

Nothing against women but, in combat I want the strongest, toughest, meanist man I can get to help me kill the enemy and to survive, so we can kill more enemy. No soldier would want anything less. It's no place for a woman. Period. If this is being a bigot or sexist, then I guess I am a big one.

199 posted on 09/17/2001 4:49:17 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Vinnie
"One ex- soldier stated that in his small town ( Mid-West as I remember) 3 young men couldn't join, got 4F deferments. Two of the three committed suicide because of the shame."

Both of my grandfathers were deferred from service in WWII because they were farmers. (Apparently owning a farm was a deferment reason, I guess we all need to eat...) Anyway, if I asked about WWII, and if they were ever drafted, and similar info, they always made some quick answer and then changed the subject. I could be wrong, but I think they held some guilt or shame about not taking bullets like their same aged countrymen.

Fast forward 50 years, and a military dodger gets elected president. Go figure.

200 posted on 09/17/2001 4:49:21 PM PDT by Pappy Smear
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