[gcruse]

The article has some salient points, but I dislike
the defeatism. It sounds as if he's already given up. I haven't. ;)

 I know.  That's why  I wouldn't push it publicly.
  There is nothing moral about war.  And we
  are going to have to take a long trip to the
  dark side for this one.

  How much of our wonderful self-image
  and we willing to give up to fight dirty?

[JMJ333]

I don't know. Do you think the women in the marine corp will still demand to wear their red lipstick? :)