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GOD DID IT, PART II
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Posted on 09/16/2001 4:58:12 PM PDT by VinnyTex
GOD DID IT, PART II: Reader Randall Parker calls my attention to this Worldnet Daily article by Anthony C. LoBaido, which makes Jerry Falwell's offensive theodicy look sophisticated and kind. A small sample:
Is New York the head of the "Great Satan"? All that is evil in the world can be found in New York: MTV, the United Nations, the U.N. abortion programs, the Council on Foreign Relations, New Age Church of St. John the Divine, Wall Street greed, Madison Avenue manipulation and of course more confirmed AIDS cases than the rest of America combined. Let's remember the filthy sodomite gay parade last summer in New York. Let's remember all the New York politicians falling all over themselves to praise this sick spectacle. And let's not forget that New Yorkers electedby a landslidethe openly Marxist, treasonous and abortion-mongering, occultic Hillary to a Senate seat. All while fully knowing what she was all about.
So are we all innocent here in New York? Are we innocent with our porno, drugs, filthy Jay Leno monologues, our idolatry, materialism and consumerism? Innocent when Republican Governor George Pataki stands next to the blood-stained dictator of Communist China as he rings the opening bell for the stock market on Wall Street?...
Can the remnant in America help but honestly ask themselves: Is this the fulfillment of Revelation chapters 17 and 18 (Mystery Babylon) or has God raised up Shiite Islam as a sword against America?
These guys should apologize to their fellow Americans, but first they should apologize to God. Since WND chooses to end the piece with a plug for my friend Hugh Hewitt's book, implicating Hugh in the article's sentiment, I've asked Hugh for a response. I hope he will cancel his Worldnet Daily column. Free speech is essential as government policy, but there are some people, as Ramesh Ponnuru puts it in this excellent column, whom civilized people should not let into our houses. Not only LoBaido but the editors who published him should be shunned. [Posted 9/15.]
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To: jude24
What will the_doc say?LOL..he will tell me I am hoplessly lost *grin*..LOL..jude go to bed it is late and you have school!
To: mustapha mond
IMHO it sounds like Falwell jumped to conclusions by not qualifying his inference with a "maybe." Not every personal (national) misfortune is associated with a particular personal (national) sin, though some are.
If any one national sin had to be most directly blamed for this, I would say the sin of naive immigration policy.
To: drlevy88
"Let me address your sharpest objection..."
Well you didn't? My sharpest objection is that you
people think human suffereing is just ducky, and
are in positive glee about it when it there is enough
of it, like this week.
Hank
To: chaffer2
Lighten up. Falwell is an irrelevant goof. That's about all.
But some of the anti-religious bigotry here hits a new low.
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To: Hank Kerchief
you people think human suffereing is just ducky, and are in positive glee about it when it there is enough of it, like this week And you accuse US of vituperation? Take a chill pill dude.
To: VinnyTex
Call me nuts, but I believe this is a wake-up call by God to this nation to turn back to him. That does not mean I don't care for the people who are lost. That does not mean I want vengeance for the bastards who did this to us. But, it also means I see the higher scheme of things and that God allows things to happen for a reason and sometimes to get our attention. He dealt with nations coroporately in the OT and brought tragedy IN ORDER TO TRY TO SHAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR PRIDE AND TURN THEM BACK TO HIM. In Isaiah it is recorded that God says he makes "good and I CREATE CALAMITY." He does it all. He is sovereign, no matter how we can't understand it. I must bow my knee to this mystery, no matter how repugnant it sounds to my human mind. I pray that this will serve as a wake-up to repent as a nation and bring God back into our national life and to come back to him.
That said, find the bastards who murdered these innocents and kill them with such furiousness they will feel the horror that these poor people in NY and Washington did. LET'S TEACH THESE TERRORISTS AND THEIR SUPPORTIVE NATIONS A LESSON THEY WILL NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: Southern Federalist
BTW before their was Reagan, Rush, Newt, Pat,ect. Their was the Reverand Jerry Falwell. He was fighting the Liberal establishment with the Moral Majority when their were NO CONSERVATIVE LEADERS. This is a man of courage and honor without whom there would have been no Reagan revolution.
You conservatives better learn your history and back the man up.-MM
To: Mugwort
To: VinnyTex
God certainly permitted it, as He does permit all things that happen, good or evil. But whether that translates to an endorsement is a gigantic disconnect.
To: rwfromkansas
A big fat maybe of course as to "why" God did it, but it is interesting that it happened in the middle of two of the biggest "sin cities" of America. The pull-together after the disaster -- and the national vigilance against more of the same -- will certainly have a salutory effect.
To: Dryman
In all or your requests about what God may or may not do, You seem determined to set the parameters for which God acts. On the contrary, it is those who insist that God is wreaking vengeance on America by killing innocent people who are setting the parameters of God's acts.
What kind of small-minded God would do such a thing?
I pray to a God who is much greater and better than I, and I wouldn't visit such terror on innocent people.
God doesn't either.
To: drlevy88
"why" God did it Erk, I fell in the trap myself. Why God ALLOWED it.
To: rwfromkansas
Call me nuts, but I believe this is a wake-up call by God to this nation to turn back to him. That does not mean I don't care for the people who are lost. That does not mean I want vengeance for the bastards who did this to us. But, it also means I see the higher scheme of things and that God allows things to happen for a reason and sometimes to get our attention. He dealt with nations coroporately in the OT and brought tragedy IN ORDER TO TRY TO SHAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR PRIDE AND TURN THEM BACK TO HIM. In Isaiah it is recorded that God says he makes "good and I CREATE CALAMITY." He does it all. He is sovereign, no matter how we can't understand it. I must bow my knee to this mystery, no matter how repugnant it sounds to my human mind. I pray that this will serve as a wake-up to repent as a nation and bring God back into our national life and to come back to him. That said, find the bastards who murdered these innocents and kill them with such furiousness they will feel the horror that these poor people in NY and Washington did. LET'S TEACH THESE TERRORISTS AND THEIR SUPPORTIVE NATIONS A LESSON THEY WILL NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!Well said!
To: drlevy88
A big fat maybe of course as to "why" God did it, but it is interesting that it happened in the middle of two of the biggest "sin cities" of America. Is it also interesting that there were little children on all of the flights?
You are one sick-ass bastard.
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OWK
To: drlevy88
Yes, lets blame a failed immigration policy as well as the defanging of the CIA in the mid 70's
Falwell deserves more respect than he is getting on this thread.(see 148)-MM
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To: sinkspur
To say that this is impossible errs in the other direction. I thought you said once you were Catholic... do you believe your Bible???
To: sinkspur
Why do you think God allowed this to happen?
To: OWK
You are one sick-ass bastard. Back off from that mirror. Now that's better.
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