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Let's roll,'' Flight 93 victim heard to say minutes before crash Pennsylvania field
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| September 16, 2001
| JOANN LOVIGLIO
Posted on 09/16/2001 1:14:30 PM PDT by jern
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To: Dog Howlin,kattracks,John Huang2,Irma,A Citizen Reporter,ABG(any body but Gore)ChaseRMia T--All
Rebump for heroes.....
To: prognostigaator
LET'S ROLL! Make it the battle cry.
To: jernbuffyt HalfIrish WolfsView prognostigaator anniegetyourgun Richard Axtell EternalVigilance ameri
this is the story......
To: prognostigaator
Many troops will be saying that when they're going into battle. This thing is going to be a rally cry.
To: jern
"Let's roll." "Life is mostly froth and bubbles
Two things stand like stone
Kindness in anothers troubles
Courage in your own" ... an Irish poet ...
"Let's roll."
To: Countyline;jern
please begin thread 2 .... it is slowing down in loading quite alot ... thanks ...
"Let's roll"
To: jern
Great story. Although the other three hijacked airplanes hit their ground targets, we cannot assume that several of the passengers aboard would not have done the same thing with the knowledge that the Flight 93 passengers were able to obtain.
I would think (and hope) that all Americans would have been so courageous in a similar circumstance as Flight 93, knowing that your plane was heading to Washington D.C. to take out a government building.
To: prognostigaator
Thanks for the BUMP!
I have no doubt that at least one of our most signicicant national monuments...probably the White House or the Capitol, is standing right now because of these selfless American heroes...and more importantly, many American citiizens are still with their beloved families today...may their spirit of sacrifice for their friends and neighbors continue to inspire us all. I know I will never forget them.
See you later...gotta ROLL!!
;-)
To: Arleigh
I remember it was reported to have been a truck fire.
To: Gracey
I'm with you. IMO, they had no bombs. It was a wonderful scare tactic to keep everyone in their seats!!! These people were professional. Well before we heard any suggestion of bomb threats about the hijacked aircraft, I realized they must have made such threats--and must have been made in a realistic fashion--in order to keep dozens American 'sheeples' from taking action against four or five thugs armed with box cutters.
In point of fact, they depended upon our familiarity with terrorist hijackings both in the news and in the entertainment culture. If not for technology allowing passengers to discover the other hijackings and end results for those aircraft, who would seriously expect a group of hijackers to be lying. It's also somewhat noteworthy they pretty much all (if not all) were first-class passengers. I haven't been on a 757 in about 10 years but I know many aircraft don't have a curtain or anything else to keep people from having a clear view of the cabin for observation purposes. It might be a good idea to rethink that area of the aircraft.
To: jern
Another bump for a Hero's tale!
To: jern
Beautiful and moving. I am weeping as I type this.
God rest their courageous souls.
To: KC Burke
Amen! There are more than "two or three gathered together in His Name!"
Ya gave me goosebumps with that one! Thanks!!!
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To: jern
Bump it for Todd Beamer...
To: Hugh Hewitt
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posted on
09/17/2001 3:08:33 PM PDT
by
RonDog
To: jern
I agree whole heartedly that these men were all heroes.
But, I believe that one passenger is being overlooked by the media. Richard Guadagno was a passenger on Flight 93 and a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Law Enforcement Officer. USFWS Law enforcement officers are federal law enforcers and go through some of the same training that FBI agents go through. I believe that he is a major part of this story that the media has yet to report on. I knew him personally and know that he was involved, especially with his background in law enforcement. He is also a hero in MY eyes.
To: jern
Eight Miles?? Insulation and papers found eight miles away??? I can imagine that might occur if there were tornados reported in the area...but...eight miles??? Ok..there is a huge rising fireball. Most anything flammable would have succumbed to that within moments. Or let's say some of the stuff managed to escape the heat and in the chaos of the 'mix' near the ground did manage to catch the thermal generated from the heat of the fire without getting toasted. Let's say the paper or insulation might have gained ...say...a couple thousand feet AGL on that ride. At some point the stuff would have to escape and begin its jouney back to earth. (Newton and all that.) Being carried by a brisk wind...let's say 15 miles per hour just for conservative argument's sake... and assuming that paper or insulation has a lousy lift/drag ratio of 1/1 then that paper or insulation might not travel more than...er...a very few thousand feet at most. (WAG) And I'm being VERY forgiving of the physics involved here. Now..some claim to have heard a bang or explosion prior to impact. One might argue that the noise could be the aircraft beginning to break up due to overspeed induced by a power on dive but generally the shredding of wings is the first indication of severe redlining...which did not happen. Not to say that it might not have begun to break up milliseconds before impact. But a simple look at the crater reveals that the wings were at the very least in the correct position upon impact. It can't be a sonic boom...From the position of the observers (feet squarely on the ground) the shock wave would have to follow the impact. And you can't drive one of those monsters into sonic-land without breaking them. Eight miles?? As a dabbling, porpoising sailplane pilot all I can say is I sure wish I had some of that insulation and paper aerodynamics to play around with. The L/D must have been absolutely awesome!!! I say they got hammered at high altitude...
To: PhilDragoo
Osama's head in a jar on the Oval Office desk for Bush's next fireside chat. With a webcam focused on it, so all his buddies and other like minded creatures can contemplate the the consequencies of anything they might be thinking of doing.
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posted on
09/17/2001 9:03:19 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: jern
To: Humidston
The reason we REACT mindlessly to events, and perpetuate them, instead of initiating actions on our own terms, is that we fail to WORK thru the events within ourselves.
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