Freeh: Real threat far right,Christian,Patriot,Militia..not from foreign sources

[yarddog]

Actually the unabomber is a good example of FBI ineptness. He would not have been caught if his family had not become suspicious and turned him in.

Many of the leftwing terrorists of the 60's were never caught despite living openly and participating in politics etc. until they happened to stumble, not because the FBI was devoting thousands of agents to their capture.

The fact that the unabomber was an environmentalists/leftist wacco and not caught by the FBI but by his family lends credence to the case being made here.

[Ol' Sparky]

I agree that I wouldn't associate Christian Identity groups with other militia or Patriot groups. I'm well aware of the difference. But understand that the CI groups do claim do try and claim many of the values of that Christians, conservatives and others that love the country and freedom. When you confront them, they reveal what they are -- racists, anti-semites and supporters of totalitarian countries and ideas. The CI movement is dangerous and needs to be confronted every bit as much as openly left-wing groups do.

[rdavis84]

"One thing I've been looking for since January is an article touching on the subject of whether the Bush administration, for the most part, left the Jackson Stephens phone/data system in place. If they did in any way, shape or form, they're crazy."

I believe if they left it in place it would possibly have had a few modifications made to it by the BushBoys at The Company. Subtle modifications that would be impossible to detect from the outside.

Could be why there was a total glossing over by the new admin. about damage, etc. Perfect cover for the shadow people to do their job.

Your very first link on the phone system almost reads like a cover story plant, eh?

Spy vs. Spy.

[MagnusMat]

Freeh resigned in July, Sorry to inform you.

[MagnusMat]

I will need time to read it, it looks interesting. Keep in mind, I basing my weight on personal expereince of the Freeh family not the evidence that you are presenting, so I will need time to study what you are proposing. Also, I do agree that Freeh needed to resign, (2) that he made mistakes, but I hope you will be open to the good that he did. Also, one never sees all the terrorists that the FBI has stopped during that time period, (3) Clinton via Reno tied his hands several times (As Rush Limabugh always reminds us, Klinton is the Commander in Chief and Klinton always hides behind his subordinates). (4) It was Klinton not the FBI who changed US policy towards these middle eastern countries. Nevertheless, give me a few days to read the websites that you have directed me to and I will give you a more intelligent reply.

[MagnusMat]

Put the proper blame on the terrorist, not on Freeh. Who would ever expect them to do what they did. If Freeh would have radically beefed up security at the Airports, people like you would have called him a commie. Why hasn't any one blamed the Immigration office for allowing these clowns into the country. Why bother explaining..! What about the CIA? What about local police officers who stopped one of the hijackers, but let him go? What about the Airport security? The list goes on. What about the current FBI director? What about the polticians who di dnot allow computer tapping by th eFBi? What about clinton who gave secret technology away to the Chicoms and now is in the hands of terrorists? What about previous administrations who actually aided people like Bin Laden?

[Ben Bolt]

Very well stated . I have seen actions over the years that made me consider, then conclude they were patsies at minimum , more likely the traitors I believe them to be . Can I prove anything ? no . But the actions they have both taken along with many others , speaks volumes to me . tunnel vision is nice for some things , but often times may cause arrested development . All we can do , is take action and never stop .

[Ben Bolt]

A decent man would have left the post , and he did have a choice . when we accept decent as the paradigm , then we get exactly that and often even less .

[steve50]

Probably a good time to go get those pot smokers, can't have them screw this up like they did Vietnam.

[rdavis84]

"Perhaps the govenment has had its eyes opened as to whom the real enemy is and where they are.

Don't bet your lunch money on that."

Dang!!! Don't discourage an Easy Mark! ;-)

[Ben Bolt]

I can relate to the emotional response . But I think from reading you for some time , you would have found yourself doing the right thing . I think the vast majority of the population would have also . friends are friends , but the rule of law is just that .

[Ben Bolt]

Many people are to some degree , contributors to this situation on tues . But ultimately it lands on freeh . He did have the jackals in his association , and knowing that he still stayed in there company . Yes we rarely hear of the good and great things these people have done , but we damn sure see what they dont do also . however , 1st things 1st , and like you I have a good deal to read !

[zog]

--a resounding SLAP to the forehead for me, and a homeresque "Doh!": I plead temporary info overload. mea culpa, of course you are correct! My apologies, of course.

[arete]

We were lead to believe that the enemy was Microsoft and the drug companies. I know it is so cause the Justice Dept. and algore told me it was.

If there was a real failure here, it wasn't American intelligence, it was the total lack of leadership coming from congress. Now all the pols are out getting TV face time saying, "Ain't it awful." To be brutally honest, I'd much rather have the planes hit the Capital than sacrifice all those innocents at the WTC. We would have lost so much less.

Richard W.

[MagnusMat]

zog: I can't relate to that big time.

[MagnusMat]

I agree, I also agree that Freeh had to resign because it reached a critical mass and he ultimatley is responsible. He - Freeh - just did such a good job while he was in NYC, he busted the mafia in unbelievable ways. But anyways, he is gone, and now we need to support Mr. Mueller and encourage him to take the necessary steps to stop these anti-Americans. God bless Freeeprs! Magnusmat

[FReethesheeples]

B.S., & p.s. BARF.

[tet68]

Rob,in todays Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial section there was an article that made this direct connection and tried to tie the militia movement and the terrorists to the same tree.

I don't remember who wrote it but I believe it may have been some one from the Clinton administration.