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Amazing!

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The government knew who was behind it this operation to bring terror to America. (And They---FBI knew bin Laden was one of those behind the last World Trade Center Bombing that the FBI allowed to happen by refusing to allow their paid infomant explosives expert to replace the real explosives with fake explosives.)

So why was bin Laden (and who ever else) allowed to operate all this terror training/planning groups throughout the USA and worldwide?

Why did the FBI and CIA, State Department not work with others countries to shut them down overseeas?

[oneway]

Evidence emerged that the terrorist operation that killed thousands in New York and Washington had been planned for at least five years

Any liberal lapdog suck up socialist Klintoon loving lerkers...Pay attention here...morons

[Real Cynic No More]

There are seven of them that we know about, because of their having been trained in the U.S. This doesn't mean that the others weren't trained elsewhere, or under assumed names here that we have not uncovered.

The latest reports are that 4 of the 5 terrorists on one plane were pilots. There were also other posts about a flight instructor (in Afghanistan?) who said he was "forced" to train 14 flight students there.

It would not surprise me if all or at least 4 on each of the terrorist flights were pilots of one ilk or another.

[PoisedWoman]

Of the 19 names, at least two-thirds had surnames associated with the south-west corner of Saudi Arabia or Yemen, which is where the bin Laden family originates.

PBS showed a fascinating documentary this week about Saudi. Apparently there's plenty of opposition to the Saudi royal family, with many supporters of bin-Laden among the Saudi people. PBS may repeat it or have transcription up at their web site. It's well worth watching. Many CIA agents are interviewed and describe the problems with getting agents into Arabian countries.

[aristeides]

I wonder why seven pilots, and not eight, when there were four planes. You'd think two pilots per plane would make sense, so that the plot on each plane could survive the death or incapacitation of one pilot. I kind of suspect the real number is eight, and the authorities are not yet aware of the qualification of the eighth pilot.

[nagdt]

To find pilots in your neighborhood, visit: http://www.avweb.com It has names and addresses of most certified pilots in the US. I looked up my zip code: Many of the "questionable" pilots came into the states in the past few years. There are many. Enuff said.

[summer]

"Saudi citizens are not required to get FBI clearance to obtain flight training in America."
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And what IDIOT made up THIS stupid rule??????

[Slyfox]

Saudi citizens are not required to get FBI clearance to obtain flight training in America.

I wonder who made THAT rule?

[bootyist-monk]

The following is a list of the nineteen (19) individuals who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. Information listed for each hijacker differs, but may include date of birth, address provided, or visa status. This is the extent of the information available at this time.

The FBI requests that anyone who may have information about these individuals-even though they are presumed to be dead- to immediately contact an FBI filed office or call the toll-free hotline at 1-866-483-5137.

American Airlines #77
Boeing 757
8:10 am departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles
9:39 am crashed into the Pentagon

1) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired.

2) Majed Moqed - No information available.

3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California.

4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey.

5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot.

American Airlines #11
Boeing 767
7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates.

2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida, and Newton, Massachusetts; Believed to be a pilot.

4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot.

5) Abdulaziz Alomari - Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

United Airlines #175
Boeing 767
7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot.

2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

United Airlines #93
Boeing 757
8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco
10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania

1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot.

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Suddenly, all of our previous arguments seem silly, t-shirt. I'm honored to stand with you and all other FReepers. Here's to a truce among FReepers from all sides of the spectrum until all of these bastards and their supporters, as well as terrorist throughout the world, are brought to justice or brought to the morgue.

[SKYDRIFTER]

Don't forget the FAA airport security manipulations to enable the attacks. The FAA failings were reported to everyone from the White House on down. Those in the FAA who took airport or FAA facility security seriously were methodically terminated by the FAA.

Multiple reports to Congress - or any other agency - had zero-effect.

Check out -

Airline Safety ‘Net

- for a good look at the FAA.