[prisoner6]

According to IDG, human rights and free-speech groups that have been critical of the use of Echelon as well as other electronic monitoring systems have restated their position that the technology is ineffective, since it failed to head off Tuesday's attacks Well either it IS ineffective or they just didn't bother to chase down the source of the messages.

Maybe >they< didn't want to know...

prisoner6

[Right Face]

To much raw intelligence coming in and not enough analysts?

[mtemisan]

Dick Cheney won't even admit to the existence of the Echelon system.. or the Carnivore system. Infact, most govt. officials wouldn't, either. Too many secrets.

[VRWC For Truth]

This attack was planned for 2 or more years, the attackers exploited every hole in our security system, and they blended in with society. Finding this in the massive amount of electronic gathering would be like finding a needle in the haystack. Besides the Klinton administration never gave a DAMN about security, and was more worried about internal enemies than foreign.

[Mannaggia l'America]

I saw a report on the news yesterday that said that the US had been listening in on bin Laden while he was using a satellite phone. Then a reporter (traitor) found out about it and published a story on it. bin Laden found out from that story began using some sort of communication with encryption (perhaps voice over Internet with encryption), and physically exchanging data using ZIP disks instead of sending files.

Echelon/Carnivore would have a tough time picking things out of encrypted data.