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Fox news, John Gibson Interview on tv ^ | September 15, 2001 | John Gibson/ Ron Williams, retired Secret Service

Posted on 09/15/2001 3:01:04 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter

I just transcribed part of an interview by John Gibson that took place at about 3:30 p.m. Saturday September 15, 2001.

Sorry if this information has already been posted here.

Guest Ron Williams, retired Secret Service agent.

John Gibson: ...Does it make more sense in attacking terrorism to fight a dirty war? to hire spies, to hire assassins, to hire people to go in to put a bullet in Osama Bin Laden's head or for that matter, in Saddam Hussein's head or does it make more sense to call out the troops, put them in uniform, ship them overseas and grind out a war?

Ron Williams: Let me address that, first of all, I thought former Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel articulated who the enemy is on a worldwide basis and that is the militant Islamic radicals. From a worldwide standpoint, he took the focus off of just one man and that is Osama Bin Laden. There's a much deeper problem here, we have a cancer at the very core of Islam and Islam, the moderates or the people who believe in a holy god and believe in peace, have got to eradicate this strain of cancer out of their system, and it starts in our own country.

John Gibson: Are you saying the responsibility for getting these radicals who would wage war on the world, is essentially Muslims themselves or ours?

Ron Williams: I think that it has to start with the Muslims themselves and then we also have to be a part of that eradication but in our own country, we have allowed this radical moslem fundamentalism.--

John Gibson: Well evidently I mean they were down in Florida driving red sportscars and drinking at bars and attending flight school, and I would venture to guess that in today's atmosphere that sort of thing is going to stop, even even in a country that observes civil rights for all kinds of people, that's going to stop, my question I guess to you now is how is that going to stop? how would we stop this going on in places like Florida, Minnesota and other places where these people train?

Ron Williams, Well I think that one thing that we have to identify is what is the enemy within our own country, within the United States. We have allowed some of the militant Islamic radicals to operate within our own country and I'll give you an example, I was particularly incensed yesterday when Dr. Siddiqi was at the National Cathedral at president's prayer when on October 28, 2000, he was outside the White House with 5,000 demonstrators sponsored by Hizbollah and Hamas, shouting "Kaibar Kaibar, oh Jew: Mohammed's army's coming after you, Death to the Jew, Death to America." He spoke at that rally and we have allowed this type of thing to permeate and--

John Gibson: Bur Ron you know, I mean you're not going to get United States Supreme Court to say that we can go out and arrest people for saying offensive things what we can arrest them for is saying things that amount to a conspiracy to blow things up and hurt people.

Ron Williams: That's exactly right, but I think also that also in the last several years the CIA has been restricted---

(Yeah, John, but if a Catholic leader or a Protestant leader or a Jewish leader spoke at a rally where they said, "Death to the atheist, satanist, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Moslem, etc." they would be shunned, disgraced, and not allowed to speak at a national event, much less a prayer service.)


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To: Prodigal Daughter
I knew it!!!! Something inside of me was upset by his voice....I knew he was one of "them"...I knew it!! We rid ourselves of the homeland terrorist too!! Good catch! I missed that one...
41 posted on 09/15/2001 5:05:06 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: Prodigal Daughter
We've allowed members of all sorts of terrorist organizations to take refuge in this country for years. There's no surprise in that. Thousands of them. It's been known and written about for at least a decade.

If we're going to arrest all the people who hate America, round up most Democrats along with them.

BTW, should we get that excited over the opinions of an ex-secret service agent? Maybe he's not too important now and never was to begin with. I would suspect this is more of the fodder they have to fill airtime with until Bush takes some significant action which will feed the media beast some fresh images.
42 posted on 09/15/2001 5:05:09 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: billbears
You took the words out of my mouth!
43 posted on 09/15/2001 5:06:23 PM PDT by Giddyupgo
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To: Born in a Rage, thread
What I'm referring to above is when Bob Barr was accused of taking money or something from some racist organization. I can't remember the details that well now.

Evil and evil ones and enemies in Islam can mean any non-Muslim. I'll back that up with a link later. In war and diplomacy, we have to be careful and make them define every term.

44 posted on 09/15/2001 5:07:21 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: billbears
The only holy man that mentioned any other religion when naming God was the Christian. He opened his prayer "God of Abraham, God of Mohammed, and our Lord Jesus Christ". I truly am sorry, but as a Christian that offended me. You shouldn't be sorry. It was a complete blasphemy and a rejection of Christian belief. The reverend is an antichrist.

Has half of the Christian clergy just lost its backbone? More like 80%.

You might have noted Bush's remarks at the National Cathedral (tear it down). He was urging us to pray for the dead. Sounds pretty funny coming from a Methodist. Or any Protestant. Or Baptist. I'm insulted.

A former Israeli prime minister was on early Wednesday morning. Few people saw it. He was lecturing us on the meaning of the Gospel as it applied to the attack. I don't really care what any Jew thinks the Gospel teaches. He rejects it as scripture and wants to tell Christians what it means.

There's a whole lot of religious hypocrisy and blasphemy going on.

45 posted on 09/15/2001 5:15:31 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Lent
Good find. What a grate and accurate analysis. Thank you for exposing the truth here.
46 posted on 09/15/2001 5:16:41 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Prodigal Daughter

Yes. Were talking about you!

47 posted on 09/15/2001 5:17:31 PM PDT by chemicalman
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To: LenS
Allah is not the God of Israel. You are very confused.
48 posted on 09/15/2001 5:21:19 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
"For the US to sink to abysmal and self destructive moral level of Israel and to operate as an international terrorist organization is simply unacceptable."

Say what?

We(US) and the rest(Israel, etc) of the right thinking world are going to root out terrorists and destroy them; one at a time, if necessary!

Go GWB, you are the man!!

Molon Labe!!

49 posted on 09/15/2001 5:26:28 PM PDT by blackie
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To: KillerWabbit
Na, it aint weird.

It is the result of the liberalization of America.

Anti-American rhetoric - OK.
Anti-Capitalist rhetoric - OK.
Anti-Christian rhetoric - OK.
Anti-White rhetoric - OK.
Anti-Life rhetoric - OK.
Anit-anything else - off limits.

I could be wrong but that's the way it seems to me. Parhaps I'm jaded.
50 posted on 09/15/2001 5:26:58 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Born in a Rage
So if, lets say, a person like Bob Barr goes to a meeting to speak to conservative citizens and those hundreds of conservative citizens start shouting 'KKK' as he leaves the podium; does that mean he is a racist?

No, but to be absolutely consistent (which is the point that is trying to be made) the press would report this event every time Bob Barr's name was mentioned, wouldn't it? With clips and audio to boot, no doubt.

51 posted on 09/15/2001 5:27:50 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: chemicalman LurkerNoMore!
OMG take a look at those faces in Post # 48!

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. This one is worth a hundred thousand million billion trillion. Just study those faces. The clintons expose their thoughts so well. (Their cluelessness as to how to run a country and how to respond to the present situation in our country is written all over their faces). As do the Bush's.

To see W. and his wife, and the concern and care they have for our country is just amazing.

And as a Father my self of sons that I am proud of I can just imagine the pride and concern and understanding that President Bush (The elder) has for the burden that his son is handling so well.

LNM! I am sure you would like this picture, it reveals so much.

Thank you very much for posting this picture chemicalman.

52 posted on 09/15/2001 5:35:08 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: George W. Bush, Manny Festo
Two comments about the National Cathedral: See: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba10d337f49.htm#61

(Third National Cathedral gargoyle link is a dirty old man whistling at schoolgirls (a pedophile!) and

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba10d337f49.htm#95

53 posted on 09/15/2001 6:01:42 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Double standard, or merely good tactics in a time of war, by keeping the locals calm.

You and I don't have the insight or training to know why they make the decisions they make in these kinds of instances,

so watch, and learn, and see if the outcome is worth our eating sh!t in order to win.

Nothing I posted was double standard, if he has talked the way you say he has and he has served our purpose,

then put him in jail as soon as the assault begins. Thats called stratagry in W language.

56 posted on 09/15/2001 7:14:54 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Prodigal Daughter
I wonder why the networks didn't cover THAT????
57 posted on 09/15/2001 7:16:38 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Thanks for the links. It's even worse than I thought.

Tear it down. Or maybe use it for bombing practice prior to the Operation Noble Eagle.
58 posted on 09/15/2001 8:07:35 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: LenS
No, he wasn't referring to different Gods. He was simply noting that the Christian God is also the God of the Jews and the Muslims.

The Bible and Koran both disupute your claim. So, yes, he was referring to a god and God.

Being sincere doesn't make anyone's belief system valid. If all paths lead to God, what is the point of adhering to one set of tenets? Religion is not like picking out your favorite beverage i.e., you happen to prefer X over Z. If all religion happens to be is preference, then why should anyone get offended?

All paths to God cannot logically be valid, simply based on founder's writings and teachings.

59 posted on 09/15/2001 8:32:15 PM PDT by harbinger of doom
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