Scripture Fulfilled: Rev. 17 & 18 Predicted the NY Attacks!

Revelation 17, 18 | September 15, 2001 | Hebrews 11:6

[Mortimer Snavely]

If what this guy (and oh, so many others) says is truly the Word of God, then where does the Bible end? Logically, we need to regard all these recent prophecies as Holy Writ.

I'm not buying it.

[CWRWinger]

To: Heb 11:6

The destruction of Babylon takes place after the rapture of the church. IMO, your timetable is wrong.

[2sheep]

Pssst!   See #76 above.  That was a "Word of the Lord" in case you missed it.  Did you hear?  There is a famine of HEARING in the land and spiritual darkness that can be felt.  Do you know what the word hear means?

The word "hear" in Hebrew is "shama," and means to hear intelligently and is translated many, many times "OBEY," or "understand" instead of "hear" (merely to perceive sound.) That is a major and vital concept lost to most of the apostate church which is stuck in "simply believe and receive" mode and think it means to merely "perceive sound."  Two examples:

 De 6:4 Hear [shama`], O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
 5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
 9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

Sh'ma Yisrael Adonai Elohaynu Adonai Echad.
Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.

 De 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
 27 A blessing, if ye obey [shama`] the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
 28 And a curse, if ye will not obey [shama`] the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.

[Heb. 8085] shama`  (shaw-mah')
a primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively, to tell, etc.):--X attentively, call (gather) together, X  carefully, X certainly, consent, consider, be content, declare, X diligently, discern, give ear, (cause to, let, make to) hear(-ken, tell), X indeed, listen, make (a) noise, (be) obedient, obey, perceive, (make a) proclaim(-ation), publish, regard, report, shew (forth), (make a) sound, X surely, tell, understand, whosoever (heareth), witness.

[Heb. 8091] Shama`  (shaw-maw')
from 8085; obedient; Shama, an Israelite:--Shama.

God really does mean what He says!  If one does not "believe" enough to "do" what He says, that man's faith is in vain, of none effect and even that which he hast shall be taken from him.  He needs no man to deceive him, he has deceived his own self.

 Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

 Ps 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

Look at this promise -- "THEY KNEW NOT!"

Mt 24:39 And *knew* not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Knew:
1097. ginosko*
ginosko ghin-oce'-ko

a prolonged form of a primary verb; to "know" (absolutely) in a great variety of applications and with many implications (as follow, with others not thus clearly expressed):--allow, be aware (of), feel, (have) know(-ledge), perceived, be resolved, can speak, be sure, understand.

Ps 53:2 God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.

It is time to lay every tradition and every doctrine at the foot of the cross and REPENT!  Start over!  The timeframe in the word above is consistent with a look at this year's Jewish Feasts.  Sept. 11 was the towers of Babel/Babylon falling.  "Yet 7 days" -- the same words the Lord said to Noah before the Judgment of the flood -- brings us to Sept. 18 --  Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of TRUMPETS, and the head of the New Year, and perhaps JUDGMENT and THE DAY OF THE LORD.

The number 18 equals Judgment.  Trumpets equals Judgment.  The number 23 in the Bible means death.  On July 23, a fireball shaped like a trumpet fell into the Northeast.  Tropical Storm Gabrielle is currently blowing in!  Apparently the trumpet needs to blow enough to wake the spiritually dead.  Wake up!  Wake up!

Judgment is coming like the headlights of an oncoming train and people persist in doctrines and traditions of men and of devils!  I tell you for a truth that the Lord Jesus Christ IS the Messiah, the son of the God and He is coming back in vengeance on those that know not God and obey not the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and that includes those who SAY but do not DO.   2Th 1:8.  Most of the American church is apostate and so far from the true gospel that the "Christian Church" is not recognizable to one who just simply reads the Bible, Genesis through Revelation, with a submitted heart.

The false church has exalted itself like Jezebel, allowed the wicked one, that old serpent and his ministers to preach and seduce the saints.  He has been given pulpit time and voting rights and has deceived the church.  If one wants to go to heaven, it is through the shed blood, the sacrifice of the Lamb of God, and in obeying Him, in departing from evil, purifying oneself and preferring HIM and what He says rather than what the false prophets say He says.  One understanding of the wicked one standing in the holy place, is sin, standing in the heart of the so-called believer.  "Believer "should not be used as synonomous for "Christian."  Devils believe and tremble.  Most Christians don't have sense enough to tremble and shall perish for lack of knowledge because they have rejected God by not acknowledging Him by their works and doing what He says.

[2sheep]

It is the Word of God that gets the naysayers, every time.

Isa 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Once more:

Where does the Bible end?

[2sheep]

The Word of the LIVING God evidently has no place in you.

1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Isa 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

What timing.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Should we tabulate all of these modern day prophecies and add them to the Bible, then? How about some discernment? Read about how Gideon made double sure that what he was hearing was indeed the Word of God and not a command hallucination.

Religious enthusiasm and euphoria is no substitute for reasoned analysis. That's how the Church Fathers determined what actually constituted Canon in the first place.

[2sheep]

You should not try big words like "discernment" until you are up to speed on simple ones like "hear" and "repent" --

Lu 12:56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

As to your Church fathers --

Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Mt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

[attagirl]

I see you've taken much abuse for your post. I'm sorry for that. Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong. I'm no Bible scholar. However, I have to admit, when it happened I thought of the "Babylon is fallen" quotation. It just shows more credence and respect is given to Nostradamus or spirit guides or tarot cards than the Bible in some quarters. All you who are angered, why? This person has expressed a reasoned opinion. American is not innocent anymore. I have heard the terrorists have "no respect for life." Well, that also describes us since 1972. We export our decadence throughout the world via pop culture and call it intellectual property and we export our anti-humanity abortion solution and call it "emergency contraception." Anyway, America needs to sweep its own house clean. This is in no way to say don't react or overlook this unspeakable act. But to be physically/mentally strong we must first be spiritually strong.

[Sueann]

#71 - God is not vengeful! God is merciful and is full of lovingkindness. God will take this evil and turn it around for good.

[Sir Gawain]

ping

[2sheep]

#71 - God is not vengeful! God is merciful and is full of lovingkindness. God will take this evil and turn it around for good.

A Mini-Test

1.  Please  complete this verse:  "Vengeance is mine, saith the ___, I will repay."  -- Pick one of these words for the blank: Buick, hammer, Lord, duck.  Hint: Rom 12:19.

2.  Please complete this verse:  "In flaming fire taking ______ on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ,"  -- Pick one of these words for the blank:  mercy, lovingkindness, hand-holding, teary-eyed adoration, vengeance.  2Th 1:8.

3.  Please explain the Flood in 20 words or less, including who told Noah to build an ark, who shut the door, who turned on the rain, how many lived.  Why did He do it?

4.  Why was God going to kill Moses?  Ex. 4.

5.  When did God change?  Chapter and verse please.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"....Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. "

The way you use this verse will have us throw out the very people who decided what actual Scripture consisted of. If they were full of lies and vanity, then so is the Bible you quote, for it was they who put it all together by 367 AD.

".... And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

There goes the Founders of our country, as well.

This sort of loose-leaf, cut and paste, mix and match, Chinese menu (two from column A, three from column B) sort of Biblical interpretation makes us look like a bunch of hysterical nit wits and makes room for an endless amount of additional Scripture. This undermines Biblical authority, undermines historical Christianity, and as such is dangerous.

[Uri’el-2012]

The style that Revelations is written in is known as apocolyptic(sic). The word revelation is interchangable(sic)
with the word apocolypse(sic).

how the book of Revelations can be interpreted as prophecy

The style that Revelations is written in

In your study did you perchance read Revelation 1:1

Re. 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show
his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by
sending his angel to his servant John,

There is only one revelation ; the one given to Y'shua HaMashiach by G-d (YAHWEH) to give to the servant John.

Tehillim (Psalm) 119:105 Your Word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.

XeniaSt

[not-an-ostrich]

Baloney! Just read it.

[Rodney King]

Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her PLAGUES come IN ONE DAY, death, and mourning, and FAMINE; and SHE [the entire city] shall be UTTERLY BURNED with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

New York City was not:

1) PLAGUED
2) suffering from FAMINE
3) or utterly BURNED with fire

all in one day.

The problem is that you guys want this to be the end so bad that it coulds your judgement.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Man, have I heard such predictions after each and every human event since I could read, and NOT ONE of these predictions came true, not one. So, take your "turn to God or else" and go away. My God isn't a terrorist.

[Rodney King]

The Lord made it very, very clear that we will no know when the end is coming. It is pretty straight forward. It amazes me how many people read that, but think that if they just work hard enough at the bible, and have enough faith, that they will know when the end is coming. When the Lord says that you will not know, you will not know. I wish everybody would stop wasting their time trying to figure it out.

[Alas Babylon!]

Can God love us, and yet still visit vengeance upon us? What did Jesus mean when he said:

Matthew 23

37

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39

For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

And this:

Mark 13


Jesus Foretells the Future

¹As Jesus was leaving the Temple that day, one of his disciples said, "Teacher, look at these tremendous buildings! Look at the massive stones in the walls!"
²Jesus replied, "These magnificent buildings will be so completely demolished that not one stone will be left on top of another."

Here is the answer. Jesus loved Jerusalem, but even He could not save Her unless the inhabitants saw Him as the Messiah.

I do think Jesus loves America, but we need to ensure He is our Savior also.

Do I think Tuesday was Revelation 18? No, not yet. It will be MUCH worse!