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Is this the start of the new world order?
Naspino

Posted on 09/14/2001 9:47:12 PM PDT by Naspino

There have been a lot of religious and occult inferences to what is going on -- and for the most part "tin foil hat" responses. However, there could be an undertone to what will soon happen that we -- as Free Republic members -- should keep an eye out for.

If a New World Order could be built, literally a revived Roman Empire, it could not be built during our lifetimes through diplomacy without a massive life-changing, earth-shaking event that demanded its creation. What we could possibly be seeing is the formation of this New World Order.

Just think about these things:

1. For the first time -- in my lifetime and most likely in the last 60 years the partisan rankor in this country has been nearly abolished.

2. To question the congress or the President immediately implies that one is a traitor (rightfully so) because of the need to keep the response to this action moving forward.

3. We are for the first time (both sides) questioning our need to surrender some our freedoms. We are for the first time considering placing troops within our country, in our airports, on our airplanes.

4. We are considering whether to completely close our borders (I don't know how long its been since we've done this).

5. Article 5 has been invoked in NATO.

6. We are forming a coalition of nations outside of NATO, most likely one larger and more resolved than the one Bush Sr. created. The tone to this coalition may very well be "if you are not for freedom -- then you must be against freedom".

7. We are considering weapons of mass destruction (at least many Americans -- maybe not the President).

8. Congressmen are seriously questioning the need for identification technology -- for which we have been fighting against for years (FaceIt, National Ids, bio-implants). Gephardt remarked that most Americans were against this technology, but in light of resent events we may have no choice.

9. The US has stood in the way of many nations attempts to eradicate their Islamic problems (China and Russia most notably) because of "human-rights abuses". Any coalition involving these nations will have to address their needs to eradicate these people -- without those objections.

All of this can very quickly lead to the formation of a larger "entity" that does not necessarily fight for "freedom" but fights against those that are against it -- to begin with Islamic Fundamentalism. While out militaries fight this war we will no doubt see a blank check given to intelligence agencies due to the "shadowy" nature of our enemy. Using the same logic we will likely see the erosion of some of our freedoms through increased security measures to safeguard those freedoms, perhaps initial introduced as temporary measures.

The most notable things we will see will be the increased security at our borders and on our travel -- the level of security will likely exceed that that El Al and Israel have in place. We might see our borders guarded by the military instead of internal law-enforcement -- not only ending illegal immigration but the drug-trade as well. We might see internal check-points placed on our highways and roads through-out the country. We might see the Washington DC airport never re-open to the public -- all public transport to and from DC will have to occur through heavily guarded roads and railways.

Finally, and perhaps most horrifyingly we might see the liberals among us -- after some time -- not only single out Islam as an enemy of our new world, but radical Christianity as well. Already we remark about Falwell and Robertson for their beliefs that we are the cause of this -- a point that many of us agreed with before the bombing. How many has it been said that America's naivety, our acceptance of the evils within our borders like the defense of mass murders, and specifically that of abortion would eventually cause God to lift his protection from this nation?

Those that believe in the Bible and in Revelations have always known that one day the devil would be thrown to the earth, that he would go after the Jewish people (protected by two Eagle's wings -- Revelations) but not be able to harm them. In frustration he would turn on her children...which has long been thought of as Christians.

Further -- those that believe in Revelations know that the "beast" will have victory over the "saints" and that those that accept the mark of the "beast" (666) will never be allowed into Heaven. All of this would lead to the "bowl judgements" which then lead to the eradication of billions of people from the earth and end in the return of Christ.

We've all seen the prophecies posted here hundreds of times and my point for bringing this up is that I've always held the belief that the "mark" of the beast are bio-implants that identify that person as belonging to the nation -- not actually a 666 tattooed on your forehead. It says the mark allows those that receive the ability to buy and sell. I did my college speech on bio-implants and the majority on their WONDERFUL benefits and the last 5 minutes on a "what-if" scenario. My scenario was this:

Imagine Hitler in the 1930's just coming to power. However -- having all of the technology we have today and all of his citizens implanted with identification (check Ditigal Angel -- the technology is so small it can be injected via a needle). Now, Hitler decides its time to pass the laws restricting Jewish rights within Germany. He opens Windows 2000 Professional, opens SQL Server, and runs:

UPDATE CITIZENS SET ACTIVE=0 WHERE BLOOD="Jew" -- Run

In an instant...all Jews across the country lose the power to buy, to sell, to travel on railways, and on planes. Checkpoints can be setup -- scan each person passing through and remove those that are inactive. Essentially the round-up of Jews is no longer based on appearance or the subjectivity. Its based on the result of a scan done on the person's hand or forehead.

Now -- the advantages of the chips are extremely long. It allows a true paperless society, reduced waits at airports, at ticket counters, at checkout lines, at banks. Monetary crime is nearly eliminated with the ability for the MASSIVE CIA and FBI resources to track all transactions and see the history of transactions for as long as the person was implanted. The ability to locate and apprehend criminals, and located the kidnapping and missing.

No one in that room believed we would EVER consider such technology -- however many years ago we did not like the idea of ATMS because there were not personal enough -- now we don't like cashiers because they're inconvinient. This event -- could be the catalyst for the implementation of the bio-implant technology. Certainly I don't believe bio-implants will show up tomorrow or the next year or the next. This is a gradual process of easy people into acceptance -- and each event like this that occurs will expose the flaws of its predecesors (like SmartCards or National Identity Cards) and increase the acceptance for something better -- however frightening.

I close with this -- whether you agree with my Biblical beliefs, we here at the Free Republic have always fought against this kind of invasion of privacy. We need to keep a very close eye on what freedoms we are willing to give up -- no matter the cause.


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To: Naspino
Would they take him away and forcibly implant him? Does that mean he will be eternally damned? What do you do in that situation?

You understand that God is smarter than men. And much smarter than bootclad Nazis...

Neither he, nor you... are culpable. And will not be held to the standard of those who bow down and lick the hands of the false god.... (government - to be clear)

Surely, you know this....

61 posted on 09/14/2001 11:46:58 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: It is time
It's the worldwide replacement of Western culture with a culture that is conducive to an era of dehumanization and complete alienation.

Hahahha.... You too need therapy.

It's western alright. Western socialism.

62 posted on 09/14/2001 11:48:05 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Uriel1975
You're probably needed here...
63 posted on 09/14/2001 11:48:42 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: oceanperch
If the Blue Helments show up as aide assitance = We Are all in a Ssheeeeze load of trouble.

With so many of our troops overseas taking care of somebody else's business....and the possibility of thousands of reserves being sent there as well...we are left wide open.

I can't help wondering if this is the way it was planned.

64 posted on 09/14/2001 11:59:07 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: Aerial
I can't help wondering if this is the way it was planned.

Reynolds Aluminum cannot produces enough foil in a year to make your hat!

66 posted on 09/15/2001 12:24:45 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: DAnconia55
How do you make someone who is perfectly willing to die for their cause "piss themselves?"
67 posted on 09/15/2001 12:26:13 AM PDT by Zorobabel
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To: Zorobabel
How do you make someone who is perfectly willing to die for their cause "piss themselves?"

Not every Arab is on an unholy crusade against the US..

I expect to kill the ones who are active against us. And to make the moderates understand that blowing up our buildings is a no-no.

Look, I'm a libertarian. I prefer not to use force. That doesn't make me a coward.

I propose that the Arabs need a lesson. We can teach it in stages.

Lesson #1 : We remove UTTERLY all terrorists worldwide, no matter whose borders we have to violate.

Lesson #2: (After another attack by terrorists) We destroy or invade the worst supporters.... Syria, Afghan, Iraq, Sudan..

Lesson #3 ( Future escalation... Or in the event they DARE to use nukes, or biologics) : We turn the all Arab nations into a glass sea.

68 posted on 09/15/2001 12:45:36 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Texasforever
Reynolds Aluminum cannot produces enough foil in a year to make your hat!

That line is getting so old and boring.

70 posted on 09/15/2001 5:45:28 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: Old Hickory
Massive filters for "the kids" to be safe.

You know you could have something here. After this is over we may have a new security "fad".

71 posted on 09/15/2001 7:30:40 AM PDT by Naspino
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UPDATE: 9/17. Top NYSE gains amongst a near 700 point slide:

INVN +165.3% Aviation Explosive Detection Systems
VISG +142.3% Biometrics, Digital Identification Systems
ICTS +113.3% Airport security services
VSNX +93.2% Biometrics, FaceIt Camera Systems
MAGS +66.3% Luggage Scanning Systems
IDX +72.6% Biometrics

As I said -- truth will tell -- lets come back in 6 months.

72 posted on 09/17/2001 2:07:35 PM PDT by Naspino
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To: Naspino
bttt
73 posted on 09/17/2001 2:10:43 PM PDT by Don Myers
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