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To: wirestripper
>>after that I loose you because you appear to be placing blame on a free and open country for not having enough security.<<

I didn't/don't see it that way in relation to airport "security". The fact is we never had any at all. What we had was political pablum to convince the non-thinking people that gooberment was "doing something". All this "something" amounted to was insuring traveling was a supreme pain in the ass for innocent civilians. It obviously did nothing at all to deter any terrorists. Name ONE terrorist who was ever stopped or arrested because of the metal detectors,the lack of lockers in waiting rooms,or a minimum wage security guard. Now they are going to ban pocket knives and prohibit people from loading luggage at curbside. Just more BS and pablum to convince people they are "doing something".

OOOPS! There is ONE exception to this. The gooberment DID manage to totally eliminate smoking on aircraft,even going so far as to put smoke alarms in the toilets. At least they protected us all from the "dangers of second hand smoke",huh?

59 posted on 09/14/2001 3:32:27 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
I've been doing electronic security work for 22 years. I did anti-terrorist work for several Israeli banks in NYC in the early 80s, including some of their offices in the WTC.

I did work for numerous airlines at Laguardia and JFK.

The one thing I know for sure, from all of my experience, is that there is nothing that will stop a determined attacker. NOTHING.

I've seen countless millions wasted on security over the years. I have come in to rework systems that were merely months old, that cost who knows how much, that were totally uselsss. The best I could ever do, even with those systems, is make it a little harder to attack this target. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make any target completely safe.

I guess my point is that there is no way to insure the safety of air travelers or anyone, anywhere for that matter. And that is why I am a MAJOR advocate of self defense. While I might make it harder for a bad guy to get into your offices, it is only by your being properly armed, that you might have a chance of surviving if he does get in.

The idea of passengers carrying arms on planes needs to be looked at, seriously. While allowing just anyone to walk on with any firearm is probably not a good idea, there must be some way to allow certain qualified individuals with certain approved type arms and ammo to be able to carry on board.

Employers in high risk type businesses should encourage their employees to carry their arms in the office. People should be encouraged to carry arms on trains, buses, and in areas of public assembly.

I remember waiting in line to go to the observation deck in the WTC last winter. I remember the signs saying "No Firearms Allowed" and I remember thinking, "Man, why not advertise that we're all defenseless here?"

I have never been back, and now, ironically, I may never be able to go back, even if I wanted to.

I have a question for all that read this now. Why, if we are at war, and why, if the enemy is among us, in hiding, waiting to strike at any moment, are we not being encouraged to arm ourselves? Why? Why? Why?

Why does our government insist on our being defenseless even in light of the reality that we will be attacked again, in some form? Why?

224 posted on 09/16/2001 7:38:52 PM PDT by Critter
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