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To: Restorer, Manny Festo, dennisw
I haven't slanted anything. I've posted from a source of an Islamic lecturer/scholar about Islam. There are many Islamic leaders who are inciting hatred and condoning killing of non-Muslims. These leaders, not the Moslem people, ARE our enemies, and Americans shouldn't be naive.

If you are Christian and not anti-Christian, then I have you confused with another poster with a similar name and here's my public apology: I'm sorry for that and retract it.

I still disagree strongly that you can equate not proclaiming someone's faults with what is posted above. Radical Islam has no interested in peaceful coexistence with anyone unless for personal, temporary gain.

Question Reference Number:: 11406, Title: Killing non Muslims

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Question:

I've read that in Islam it is a greater sin to kill a Muslim than a non-Muslim. However, on death a Muslim will be in Paradise whereas the non-Muslim will be in Hell.To kill a non-Muslim is to deny them forever the chance of becoming a Muslim, and condemns them to Hell. Is this not then a greater sin?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Killing a non-Muslim when he is a mu’aahid (one of those who have a peace treaty with the Muslims) is a sin, one of the major sins. Al-Bukhaari narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever kills a mu’aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, even though its fragrance may detected from a distance of forty days.’” But with regard to non-Muslims who are at war with the Muslims and do not have a peace treaty with the Muslims or are not living under Muslim rule, then Muslims are commanded to kill them, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you” [al-Tawbah 9:123]

But this should be in the case of jihaad under the leadership of one of the leaders of the Muslims, or his deputy.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr . (www.islam-qa.com)

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12 posted on 09/13/2001 11:05:40 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Thank you.

To be perfectly fair, I've been accused of being anti-Christian before. This is because I am as adamant on telling the truth of Christian history as about everything else. A true Christian will admit that much of Christian history has been anything but truly Christian in nature.

I cannot disagree with your statements about radical Islam. It is a very dangerous phenomemon. However, there are close to one billion Moslems in the world. By no means are all of them radical. However, attacking the Moslem faith as such is likely to drive some of the waverers in that direction. A better approach is to emphasize the distinction between radicals and "normal" Moslems, not blur it. It's too bad that more "normal" Moslems don't stress this distinction themselves.

As you point out, a MAJOR difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam specifically enjoins its followers to spread the faith by the sword. Jihad is a core doctrine. The discussions are thus about when and how it is appropriate to conduct jihad.

Jesus, OTOH, specifically rejected violence. It is impossible to find any direct encouragement of military activity in the NT, for any reason, much less to spread the faith. Thus Christian warfare is conducted as an inherently secular activity, although it has often been perverted into Holy War, in (often unknowing) imitation of Islam.

I still do not think that the post does a particularly good job of making your point. It can be interpreted in other ways. Change the specifically Moslem references to Christian and it could fit into many a Christian pulpit.

13 posted on 09/13/2001 11:21:45 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Prodigal Daughter
After reading the explanations, I have come to the conclusion somebody else did, above. Round 'em up, send 'em out. If they don't like it, let the alternative be an express ticket to meet Allah. Period.

Bastards...

15 posted on 09/13/2001 12:06:09 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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