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They can't see why they are hated
The Guardian ^ | Thursday September 13, 2001 | Seumas Milne

Posted on 09/13/2001 6:33:57 AM PDT by getoffmylawn

Nearly two days after the horrific suicide attacks on civilian workers in New York and Washington, it has become painfully clear that most Americans simply don't get it. From the president to passersby on the streets, the message seems to be the same: this is an inexplicable assault on freedom and democracy, which must be answered with overwhelming force - just as soon as someone can construct a credible account of who was actually responsible.

Shock, rage and grief there has been aplenty. But any glimmer of recognition of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing world - seems almost entirely absent. Perhaps it is too much to hope that, as rescue workers struggle to pull firefighters from the rubble, any but a small minority might make the connection between what has been visited upon them and what their government has visited upon large parts of the world.

But make that connection they must, if such tragedies are not to be repeated, potentially with even more devastating consequences. US political leaders are doing their people no favours by reinforcing popular ignorance with self-referential rhetoric. And the echoing chorus of Tony Blair, whose determination to bind Britain ever closer to US foreign policy ratchets up the threat to our own cities, will only fuel anti-western sentiment. So will calls for the defence of "civilisation", with its overtones of Samuel Huntington's poisonous theories of post-cold war confrontation between the west and Islam, heightening perceptions of racism and hypocrisy.

As Mahatma Gandhi famously remarked when asked his opinion of western civilisation, it would be a good idea. Since George Bush's father inaugurated his new world order a decade ago, the US, supported by its British ally, bestrides the world like a colossus. Unconstrained by any superpower rival or system of global governance, the US giant has rewritten the global financial and trading system in its own interest; ripped up a string of treaties it finds inconvenient; sent troops to every corner of the globe; bombed Afghanistan, Sudan, Yugoslavia and Iraq without troubling the United Nations; maintained a string of murderous embargos against recalcitrant regimes; and recklessly thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year illegal military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian intifada rages.

If, as yesterday's Wall Street Journal insisted, the east coast carnage was the fruit of the Clinton administration's Munich-like appeasement of the Palestinians, the mind boggles as to what US Republicans imagine to be a Churchillian response.

It is this record of unabashed national egotism and arrogance that drives anti-Americanism among swaths of the world's population, for whom there is little democracy in the current distribution of global wealth and power. If it turns out that Tuesday's attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden's supporters, the sense that the Americans are once again reaping a dragons' teeth harvest they themselves sowed will be overwhelming.

It was the Americans, after all, who poured resources into the 1980s war against the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul, at a time when girls could go to school and women to work. Bin Laden and his mojahedin were armed and trained by the CIA and MI6, as Afghanistan was turned into a wasteland and its communist leader Najibullah left hanging from a Kabul lamp post with his genitals stuffed in his mouth.

But by then Bin Laden had turned against his American sponsors, while US-sponsored Pakistani intelligence had spawned the grotesque Taliban now protecting him. To punish its wayward Afghan offspring, the US subsequently forced through a sanctions regime which has helped push 4m to the brink of starvation, according to the latest UN figures, while Afghan refugees fan out across the world.

All this must doubtless seem remote to Americans desperately searching the debris of what is expected to be the largest-ever massacre on US soil - as must the killings of yet more Palestinians in the West Bank yesterday, or even the 2m estimated to have died in Congo's wars since the overthrow of the US-backed Mobutu regime. "What could some political thing have to do with blowing up office buildings during working hours?" one bewildered New Yorker asked yesterday.

Already, the Bush administration is assembling an international coalition for an Israeli-style war against terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts of outrage had an existence separate from the social conditions out of which they arise. But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another will emerge - until the injustices and inequalities that produce them are addressed.


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To: BlueLancer
You don't understand anything. You're advocating the murder of more civilians. That helps no-one.
61 posted on 09/13/2001 7:19:24 AM PDT by Kate22
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To: Architect
I just caught myself in #59...thanks, and sorry...
62 posted on 09/13/2001 7:19:29 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: veronica
Tuesday's events happened for a reason. We would be wise to consider that reason. Beat the crap out of our enemies, yes...and we should also contemplate _why_ they are our enemies.
63 posted on 09/13/2001 7:20:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: getoffmylawn, everyone
Hey, is it me, or is this a little like blaming the victim for the rape? If we hadn't been wearing that tight little lace mini-skirt and those Frederick's of Hollywood 'eff me' sling backs...

I tried to email this skinny little Vitamin-C deprived, Bovril swilling twit, but I just couldn't do it. What would be the point? Nothing's going to change this little skunk's mind.

Keep the faith, brother and sister patriots,

Cordially,

Liz

65 posted on 09/13/2001 7:21:08 AM PDT by RepoGirl
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To: Roscoe
There are a surprising number of apologists for the terrorists posting on FR.

There is a difference between apologizing for terrorists, and understanding why they did what they did. If we don't reconsider some of our actions, it will happen again. Acting on blind rage will just lead to more of the same.

67 posted on 09/13/2001 7:22:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Architect
The Guardian's analysis is completely accurate and it repels me to have to admit that this lefties understand the situation better than most Freepers, the Beautifully Merciless Lady being an obvious exception

Can't agree with you there at all. Clinton's foreign policy was idiotic (you cited the bombing of Serbia), but that doesn't change the fact that we are the greatest nation in the history of the world and it is proper to respond to this act of war in kind.

69 posted on 09/13/2001 7:24:49 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Sad to say, it is no longer on the money in any way. The United States is an elephant on the rampage, raining death and destruction down on millions of people across the globe. Is it really suprising that some of it comes home to roost?

I admired Sinclair when he was alive. I really doubt he would have been happy to see what has happened to this once-fine country.

70 posted on 09/13/2001 7:25:53 AM PDT by Architect
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To: getoffmylawn
But make that connection they must,

The only connection I want to make is my foot with the author's a**.

Oh, and let's connect a few terrorist-sponsoring countries with the afterlife.

71 posted on 09/13/2001 7:26:12 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: big'ol_freeper, getoffmylawn, all
Its not about excuses, its about getting one's head out of one's ass and start recognizing the US is not an invincible jaugernaut that it thinks it is.

THINK

I agree that we must act, its like what my boss' 12 year old observed, that if I hit you and you don't hit back, I'll keep on hitting you if you do not give me a cue to stop.

BUT, think about it, this is like a set up. They WANT us to retaliate, they are DARING us to retaliate. They are looking for that EXCUSE to use the big stuff against us (low yield nukes) to really do some damage.

Mindless revenge antics will only get more Americans killed!!! Ask yourself this, are you willing to sacrifice another million or so American lives because you want to appease your hard-on for revenge now? America has to do this right and not go around blowing things up because it can. Think hard and think smart...

72 posted on 09/13/2001 7:26:52 AM PDT by FireWall
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Re your 45:

Much truth there. However, I respectfully suggest that you do a study of the international gangsterism of the global banking and corporate entities so that you can put the information contained in that Canadian editorial into context.

There are many places to begin your study. A good one would be www.devvy.com.

BTW, the link to Devvy's website isn't working. --Not a good sign.

73 posted on 09/13/2001 7:26:59 AM PDT by LadyJD
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To: big'ol_freeper
"...Yeah...a manly man in the style of Chamberlain. ..."

You don't even see the irony of your own response, do you? Chamberlain was un-manned precisely because he was bound by the contradictions of the EMPIRE he was defending. A lean, mean Republic is capable of understanding it's interests and defending them by any means necessary, when the time comes. An EMPIRE, on the other hand loses sight of the cultural roots that gives meaning to human society and cannot move quickly enough to meet the blow that comes from enemies.

We were founded as a REPUBLIC. We are suffering the INEVITABLE blows visited upon EMPIRES. Think about "impotence" when you watch the replays of the WTC buldings slowly collapsing and sinking into rubble....

74 posted on 09/13/2001 7:27:38 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: getoffmylawn
WHERE... I might inquire.... is the MAJOR BARF ALERT!!!!

Over....

75 posted on 09/13/2001 7:27:45 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind
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To: Architect
The United States is an elephant on the rampage

Surprising number of fellow travelers.

76 posted on 09/13/2001 7:28:08 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: getoffmylawn
The author of this piece is in desperate need of a plexiglas stomach so he/she can see where he/she is going.
77 posted on 09/13/2001 7:28:21 AM PDT by Gunner9mm
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To: Roscoe
Re your 51:

Get a book called The Ugly American written about 25 yrs ago.

Multiply what you read by about 20.

That is YOU.

Now buzz off you JBT lackey.

78 posted on 09/13/2001 7:30:04 AM PDT by LadyJD
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To: getoffmylawn
Quote #1: "They can't see why they are hated".

Quote #2: "We must not stop thinking"

Re: #1-the Europeans are always going on like this. Unfortunately, eurotrash, we don't give a sh*t. We can see through the bombsight-that's all you need to worry about.

Re: #2-Oh, we are still thinking-don't you worry. We are thinking about how to kill, maim, ravage and destroy our enemies-pray you are not on the list.

79 posted on 09/13/2001 7:31:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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