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To: habs4ever
Do you understand what I'm saying here? Does it make sense to you?

I do understand, but I believe you are oversimplifying it. It is a fact that most hijackings do not result in mass death...the crew would incorporate this into their response and into the advice they give the passengers.

In this instance, it was tragically wrong. The people on the 4th plane had information that the people on at least first two planes did not. Therefore, the decision was decidedly different for people on that plane...they knew that this particular hijacking was NOT likely to end on a tarmac somewhere. As a result, they took action.

Thus, IMHO it is unreasonable to posthumously criticize the passengers on board the other planes. It is a natural reaction to a devastating event, but it is not rational and does not take into account the likely state of mind of people on those planes.

157 posted on 09/13/2001 5:34:58 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
The people on the 4th plane had information that the people on at least first two planes did not. Therefore, the decision was decidedly different for people on that plane...they knew that this particular hijacking was NOT likely to end on a tarmac somewhere. As a result, they took action.

Thus, IMHO it is unreasonable to posthumously criticize the passengers on board the other planes.

Exactly. Everybody did their best with the information available to them. If the people on the other planes had known more, they would have acted differently.

Let us celebrate the heroes, and mourn all the dead. The rest is just schoolyard posturing.

171 posted on 09/13/2001 6:16:25 AM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
I have not ,and will not criticize those brave, poor people.And I wouldn't try to oversimplfy such a decison, ok?But from what little they knew inside the plane, as the events were unfolding, does not alter the fact that the outcome was predetermined from even existing information.The fate that befell the other planes only gave the passengers the resolve to do what they did.I am very thankful they did what they did,and I salute and honour them.

It is the same reasoning I would use if carjacked.Never let the bastards into the car and fight all the way, because the odds are against you.The pilots know even less than the passengers what's going on in the back of the plane, so what they say in this case is irrelevant, unfortunately.If the terrorists say they have bombs, but no guns to defend them, then what good is the deterrent value of such bombs?Its a stall, until the inevitable.

Please try and understand that I'm not saying this lightly or flippantly, and I hope in a crisis I would have the presence of mind to think this clearly.But, I'm also a nasty bastard that does think about this stuff from time to time and so unless my logic falls apart, I will stick with what I said.And leave it at that.

Take Care

189 posted on 09/13/2001 12:21:37 PM PDT by habs4ever
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