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To: bayourod
What I am saying is that the cases you are talking about have been throughly investigated by the FBI, federal prosecutors, state prosecutors, special counsels, Congressional committees, and hundreds of private individuals. They involve tens of thousands of pages of documents, notes, affidavits, reports, depositions, pictures, videos, tapes, transcripts, etc...

NOTHING was investigated in the Brown case. NOTHING. And you are being dishonest to suggest Filegate (or Chinagate for that matter) have been thoroughly investigated. Sure ... by the administration that COMMITTED the crimes. Give us a break Bayourod. You know that Filegate was NOT thoroughly investigated. If it was then tell us how many files were taken and where they are now? Tell us whether the material that was being loaded on DNC computers was ever removed. Tell us why Starr, the FBI and Clinton Whitehouse LIED when they publically stated that the files had been returned to the FBI. Stop being dishonest.

The government officials have spent tens of millions of dollars, employed the brightest staffs with the latest technology and leading authorities.

Over a hundred people fled the country or pled the 5th in Chinagate ... and NOTHING was done about it by the DOJ or FBI or any other of those "leading authorities". We have tapes of Chinese agents talking about how Clinton and the Chinese premier discussed covering up Chinagate. Yet NOTHING has been done. The criminals are still free and not even forced to spill their guts in exchange for that freedom. You are being DISHONEST Bayourod and we should ask why in light of your previous statement about trusting people that are caught being dishonest.

It is impossible for you or me to study all of the material, interview all of the witnesses, and research all of the scientific studies.

SPIN SPIN SPIN. I can study enough material to know that CRIMES, serious ones, were committed in Filegate, Chinagate and probably the death of Brown. Stop SPINNING, democRAT.

We have to rely upon the judgements of others.

Who ... Reno? Who ... Clinton? Who ... ?

When the investigative bodies, with all of their resources all reach the same conclusion; and Klayman reaches an opposite conclusion, the credibility, judgment, and motives of Klayman have to be considered.

So are you saying that no crimes were committed in Filegate and Chinagate? YES or NO? Put your cards on the table Bayourod and tell us where you stand. Tell us ... YES OR NO ... do the facts in the Brown case warrant an investigation? If not, then you need to explain the pathologists, the x-rays and the photos, why there was no Safety Board and why the government demonstrably LIED about the evidence? NO EXCUSES Bayourod. Stop hiding.

It comes down to a question of who do we trust. In deciding who we trust in an old case like "Brown", it is appropriate to consider Klayman's current actions.

Klayman only played a minor role in the Brown case and what we have from him is verifiable. He found a timeline that suggests there were 2 survivors, not just the one admitted to by the CLINTON government. Are you denying this? He has depositions from several individuals, like Gormley, that point to Whitehouse involvement in the decision not to autopsy ... not to investigate. The rest of the facts come from others ... specifically the MILITARY OFFICERS that were present at the crash site and examination of the body. You are being DISHONEST to suggest that we can dismiss the Brown case because Klayman got involved. You are calling those military officers LIARS and I find that as offensive as ANYTHING that Klayman has EVER done.

And it is entirely reasonable for someone to say today that he used to trust Klayman but now doesn't believe anything that Klayman ever said in the past.

No that is NOT reasonable. Those are depositions UNDER OATH by 3rd parties. You are calling THEM liars and without ANY basis. You are just trying to keep these matters from being investigated and you'll use ANY excuse to do so. And for that you should be chastised just as severely as you are trying to chastise Klayman.

197 posted on 09/13/2001 2:04:23 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: All
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Klayman fooled me more than once I'm ashamed to say. Never again. Lets stay on the subject. This not the time for cutting each other up.
201 posted on 09/13/2001 3:03:01 PM PDT by Wagonmaster
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