Russia helps US hunt down terrorists, sees vindication for Chechnya

AFP ^ | 9/12

[mattdono]

I am sure that those Ruskies wouldn't mind a little scorched earth for Afganistan, eh?

[Physicist]

Message to Moscow: we gave you a free hand in Chechnya and looked the other way. Now it's time for you to shut your eyes and mouths tightly.

[konijn]

Notice how a fraction of the one million Chechens are destroying the Russian Army at a rapid pace!

As history has shown: occuping forces have never defeated a local guerilla.

So I would think twice if the Americans are planning to go into Afganistan.

[2banana]

As history has shown: occuping forces have never defeated a local guerilla.

Well, you don't know your history very well

See (just to name a few):
British in Malaysia
American Indians
Soviets in the Baltics
Jews and the Romans
etc.

[KC_Conspirator]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Ruskies invade Chechyna first and in retaliation for nothing?

I will correct you because you are wrong. Islamic fundamentalists from Chechnya set off numerous bombs in Moscow as well as other Russian cities. I recall one bomb killed 400 people in an apartment building. These scumbags have also kidnapped and held for ransom hundreds of Russains, sometimes killing them outright.

Russia had enough. They are vindicated for Chechnya.

[The_Reader_David]

No, Chechenya has been part of Russia since the days of the Tsars. The Russians are fighting the same enemy: bin Laden has financed and trained the Chechen separtists, and helped whip up Islamic fervor throughout the region.

[Kerensky]

Bin Laden is an engineer who would know how to maximize damage to structures. Since he now appears to be a high official of the Taliban regime, I think the appropriate response of the Bush administration would be to declare war on Afghan Taliban. Bin Laden denies responsibility, but has lauded the acts. He is at the very least an ally of the perpetrators.

Taliban slammed by Russia for naming Bin Laden as Commander in Chief

[Stavka2]

If you mean 5 thousand dead Russians for the price of about 20,000 dead Chechins, then you have a very warped sense of what destroying means. In the long run, with only 1 million Chechins and less then 250,000 living in Chechinya, this kind of attrition rate will prove nothing but extinction for Chechins as a people. Something you might not realize, Chechin rebel targets (half of Chechins are actually arabs or afghans) are other Chechins. Imagine that.

As for never defeating one, the Red Army defeated the Ukrainian guerillas. Hitler defeated the Polish guerillas. Malaysia defeated guerillas. The Vietcong were wiped out by the US. The Phillipino revolt was put down by the US. There are just as many examples of guerillas dieing out or being wiped out as of them succeeding...learn history it'll help you.

[madrussian]

It's not Americans on the street that determine foreign policy with its covert and overt support of the Chechen and Albanian terrorists.

[ProbableCause]

Message to Moscow: we gave you a free hand in Chechnya and looked the other way. Now it's time for you to shut your eyes and mouths tightly.

Oh, B.S.!! The U.S. input on Russia's justifiable action in Chechnya has always been--and I hope this will now change--a constant barrage of hypocritical moralizing and recrimination for who knows what real purpose (probably oil influence in the Caspian, ultimately). U.S. politicians even MET with those sick, barbarian f**cks! How would YOU feel if the Russians now saw fit to entertain Bin Laden in the Kremlin? Personally, I think its high time you did some shutting up of your own.

[ProbableCause]

Vindication for Chechnya??? Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Ruskies invade Chechyna first and in retaliation for nothing? Silly Ruskies...

No, YOU'RE the silly one, you daft idiot. The Chechians carried out terrorist attacks on Russian soil (ring any bells?) and invaded the Russian Republic of Dagestan. Did you just hear a popping sound? That's the noise your head makes coming out your stupid a$$.

[ProbableCause]

Screw it. My patience has died over the last two days. If I get kicked for calling a spade a spade, then so be it.

[Physicist]

Did you see us shipping stinger missiles to Chechnya like we did to Afghanistan? We did not. Russia got a complete and total pass, even in the face of their continued material support for rogue states like Yugoslavia and Iran.

When Yugoslavia shot down that F117A, whose assistance was used to do it? Where was the wreckage shipped? When our boys were in harm's way in the Balkans, they faced Russian hardware. When YOUR boys were in harm's way in Chechnya, did they face American hardware? They did not. They faced Russian hardware.

And nothing I've mention even constitutes the biggest debt Russia owes the U.S. right now.

[Israel]

Many Russian Soldiers Killed in Various Operations

America has to face reality.  Russia has been holding the line against Islamic expansion like Israel.  It was America that aided Islam by destroying Serbia.

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• In the village of Noi Atka, five Russian soldiers were killed by a remote controlled mine, which was detonated by the Mujahideen.

• Mujahideen also exploded a URAL truck and a BTR vehicle with a remote controlled mine, between the villages of Quiti and Urus-Martan. A number of Russian soldiers were killed.

• Mujahideen detonated a military vehicle between the villages of Sheriot and Noi Atka, which resulted in the death of all its Russian occupants.

• In the capital Grozny, Mujahideen destroyed a military truck carrying a Shilka anti aircraft weapon, and killed all of its occupants.

• Two Russian soldiers died in battles with the Mujahideen in Grozny.

• In Ashkhoi Martan, Mujahideen blew up an UZAK jeep, which killed a Russian soldier and injured three others. The Russian administration admitted the attack.

• In the village of Kershel, in Vedeno, the unit of Field Commander Rabbani detonated a number of mines under the feet of Russian infantry soldiers, which killed and injured a number of them.

• Field Commander Imran's unit also detonated a number of mines against a group of Russian infantry soldiers. A number of them were killed and others injured.

• Field Commander Abu Sufyan's unit blew up a BTR vehicle, between the villages of Sentroi and Belgtoi. The occupants were killed and the vehicle was burnt down.

[medved]

Quite a contrast between the Russian response and the images of the various muslim populations dancing in the streets and celebrating, isn't it?

[kevkrom]

So I would think twice if the Americans are planning to go into Afganistan.

There's a huge difference between going in to occupy/pacify and going in to destroy. I would assume that we would be going in with the latter objective...