[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Ike was not the author of Mutally Assured Destruction doctrine. He did not support barbecuing civilians.

Yes, that's true. But those were different times. The only kamakazis back then were attempting to take out military targets NOT civilian ones during a so-called "holy war".

[George W. Bush]

Yes, that's true. But those were different times. Exactly. And Ike met the responsibilities of his own time really well. I consider him generally to be the finest president of the 20th Century. I consider the Roosevelts and Churchill to be vastly overrated and their current worshppers forget how much damage they did along with the good and it seems that it is their theatrics that impress their followers most, not the real core of their thinking and policy decisions.

But that was then and this is now. Comparisons are pretty irrelevant. Too much has changed.

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Isn't it time to let this thread finally die or just start a new one?