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To: Derville
I asked you: "How many people did the [Japanese] oil embargo kill?"

You reply: Did you laugh derisively when Bush the Elder and his supporters,including Limbaugh,described a potential embargo of oil by Saddam as a legitimate cause for war?

What I remember is Hussein being given half a year by Bush the Elder to evacuate Kuwait before a single bomb dropped on Iraqi soil.

Successive regimes in our country have taken military action arrogantly against many and frequently where our interest was,at least,highly suspect.As a result,Browne's point as I understand it,we may be reaping the whirlwind.

What people like you can't get through your skulls is that just because some of us don't subscribe to Browne's Pollyanna Barney philosophy doesn't mean we all shout "my country wrong or right!" The history books are filled with suggestions and baldfaced evidence that "American interests" were really simply corporate interests and nothing more. I am not denying that -- I wouldn't dare. Capiche?

Your assertion that we were some kind of altruists in confronting the Japanese rather than Imperial rivals gives me little hope.This arrogant and deluded posture that it was the U.S.'s duty to save the yellow peoples from one of their own is not only untrue,but the inverse corollary that we know what's good for everyone laughable.

What a lying weasel you are! I said nothing of the sort! THIS is what I said:


The Japanese struck at the USA when it would not cooperate with their attempt to make Japan the power of Far East Asia and the Pacific (including Australia and New Zealand). Are you suggesting that it was the United States' obligation to sell fuel to the Japanese? Should Roosevelt have endorsed the Japanese version of "manifest destiny?" Would that have fit Browne's definition of "minding our own business?"

I laid out the way Hirohito had drawn up the projected Japanese Empire as the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" -- was or was not Roosevelt, under Barney Browne's principles, morally obligated to help Tokyo build their empire to avoid their being 'provoked by [their] anger' at the United States?

So often, I hear people say, "Well, the Japanese had to attack," as if the USA fired the first shot! What a pile of steaming, stinking nonsense! A tiny island nation above the equator that imports 4/5 of its fuel has business trying expand its influence as far as north of the Antarctic without the cooperation of the governments of its importers? The plan was doornail-dead as it was proposed.

I note that you don't want near the hot potato of Pearl Harbor with the despicable conduct of Roosevelt,Marshall;in your reality,evidently,it is alright for your government to have your own servicemen as lambs to the slaughter to serve their 'higher purpose'.

In what passes for YOUR reality, you know what would have happened if things had gone differently. I don't make such claims. Do you read tea leaves, too? Do you know Cleo, the Jamaican psychic? You make just about as much sense!

367 posted on 09/13/2001 6:24:46 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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