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Is It Time for a New "Concealed Carry" Category.........for Air Travel?
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| 09/11/01
| RightOnline
Posted on 09/11/2001 8:16:26 PM PDT by RightOnline
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For those so inclined to say it, let me head it off. Can a bullet do damage to a pressurized aircraft at altitude? Yes. Is it like in the movies? No. Hence the clear mention above of "training". You wouldn't want just any yahoo wielding a .45 at FL350, I'll tell you. However, this is one (former) pilot who'd feel a lot better knowing that there were a half-dozen or so good Americans in the passenger area watching my back.
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To: RightOnline
I have no problem with pilots carrying.
To: diggerwillow
Me neither...........so let's arm them as well.
To: RightOnline
Pilots and air marshals only, and maybe flight crew if, and only if, seriously trained. Private people are good people, but one bullet through the aircraft could be serious and dangerous. Many Negligent Discharges do happen, and I would not want one while in the air.
To: RightOnline
I'll second or third the motion.
To: RightOnline
You've made a thoughtful post ... the "ATQ" designation you describe is workable, in my opinion.
So many previous posters on other threads have castigated the so-called "sheeple" passengers on the planes for their lack of action, boasting that they would have really "kicked some ass" or other such non-sense if they were there ... you've presented a very effective solution and I thank you.
To: PatrioticAmerican
I understand, but again..........how often do possessors of CCW licenses participate in "inadvertent firearms discharges"? Can't swear to it, but I'd guess "damned few". The keys are training.......and the character of the individual entrusted with such a license.
To: RightOnline
Add one requirement; prior to boarding, bullets must be dipped in pork grease.
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posted on
09/11/2001 8:29:30 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: PatrioticAmerican
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could be this is what they used?
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posted on
09/11/2001 8:31:38 PM PDT
by
xclusiv1
To: PatrioticAmerican
Also........ (not to appear as if I'm "picking" on you :) )...........the underlying concept here is "deterrence". IOW, my theory is that such a policy could help ensure that no weapon would ever
have to be pulled inflight.
Attempt a hijack, you might be faced with ten or twelve handguns pointing at your skull. Pretty damned effective deterrent, I'd think. Same reason the average robber would avoid robbing a "cop bar".
To: RightOnline
I don't offer this suggestion lightly or flippantly, but as a proposal for protection of air travellers in American airspace. I cannot help but think that if such was allowed today, the hijackings just might not have been so successful.Logistically and financially, is a security officer of some sort on every flight (perhaps with other duties as well) out of reason? There've been many other situations which could have used something. I'm thinking of the several recent passengers who've had to be violently restrained once the plane was in the air. And of course, today, we're talking hijacking.
To: JPR_Boise_ID
Thank you.
To: RightOnline
This is absolutely not a problem for me. If every single person on those planes was armed, this would have never happened. I know about decompression, and some of the other dangers, but who would hijack a plane when everyone is armed?
To: RightOnline
.44 Special with a 200 grain gold dot hollow point would be ideal for cabin use.
To: TEXASPROUD
NOW you're talkin'. Seriously. LOTS of stopping power, but not much "penetration" power. Very good. Would it be prudent, again, in all seriousness, to mandate such loads for those exercising their CCW-ATQ right?
To: RightOnline
Any yahoo would have been able to prevent the planes from being hi-jacked. I think the airlines would be wise to provide their own armed security on-board. Fighter Jets on standby to stop a big bird gone astray could be a back-up. BOX CUTTERS??? That's ALL it took??? That's so wrong.
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posted on
09/11/2001 8:37:16 PM PDT
by
havoc1us
To: RightOnline
I'm all for it.
It would be a much greater deterrent than the rude counter clerk who asks if your bags have been with you the entire time.
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posted on
09/11/2001 8:37:36 PM PDT
by
Mulder
To: RightOnline
I think a more practical idea would be to have the flight crew separated from the rest of the aircraft by an interior wall so that it is impossible to pass between the two areas.
Years ago someone suggested that this could also be done in conjunction with a ventilation system that floods the passenger cabin with some kind of non-lethal gas to incapacitate all passengers in the event there is a problem.
To: RightOnline
Looking for these?
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posted on
09/11/2001 8:40:51 PM PDT
by
TC Rider
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