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Expert: Terrorists Chose West Coast Flights for Fuel Load
NewsMax.com ^ | 09/11/01 | Hugh Sprunt

Posted on 09/11/2001 11:00:12 AM PDT by abigail2

Expert: Terrorists Chose West Coast Flights for Fuel Load

Hugh Sprunt, a columnist and analyst for NewsMax.com, reports the following:

One little technical tidbit that I haven't seen anyone mention in the media yet (possible newshook) -- the aircraft involved appear to have all been aircraft leaving the East coast for the West coast this morning. One likely reason for this uniform selection is that the coast-to-coast flights would have a relatively full load of fuel on the planes -- that would mean more "bang for your buck" when the plane is crashed into the WTC Towers, The Pentagon, Camp David (apparently a miss), etc., since they would have relatively full tanks for he coast to coast flight (as opposed to a similar sized plane flying with a full load of passengers on a relatively short haul flight along the East coast, etc.).

The United flight that crashed 80 miles from Pittsburgh was probably intended to be used to crash into one of the builds attacked or another building. Since the flight crew would have heard what was going on over their radio (company radio if not normal A/C radios), that plane likely crashed because the crew knew they had nothing to lose and there was a battle in the cockpit for control of the plane that resulted in the plane's crashing.

The President is aboard one of the two 747-200B's that can serve as "Air Force 1" now. I know something about those planes as well (aerial refueling capability, extra oil supply for each of the four engines -- planes can stay airborne 72=96 hours with aerial refueling. The US has likely bumped up to DefCon 3 or so (state of military alert) from the normal DefCon 5.

Also -- policy decision: presumably if another highjacked plane is targeted on the White House or some other public structure where the loss of life could be high -- though WH has been evacuated apparently -- any US fighter aircraft on patrol in the area would be instructed to shoot down the airliner before it reached the target building, killing everyone on board the plane but saving lives overall.

That might not be the case if the target was, say, the Washington Monument or some similar structure since there would not be that much additional loss of life in that case. . .

It is possible (though I don't think likely yet) that they will transfer the President to one of the NECAP aircraft (National Emergency Airborne Command Post -- the acronym is not perfect). One reason that I do not think they will do this (today anyway) is that the NECAP aircraft have been in a reduced state of readiness for some time now (due to the easing of world tensions, etc., ho-ho!).


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One reason that I do not think they will do this (today anyway) is that the NECAP aircraft have been in a reduced state of readiness for some time now (due to the easing of world tensions, etc., ho-ho!).
1 posted on 09/11/2001 11:00:12 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2
I heard many media fools say, "The planes were all going to California. I wonder what the connection is?". It does not take a genius to figure out that those planes would be loaded with fuel.
2 posted on 09/11/2001 11:05:27 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Mercuria, TheBadDog, Always Right
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3 posted on 09/11/2001 11:15:07 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: KC_Conspirator
Media fools?
Maybe you and I were listening to the same Media Fool?
The Media Fool that carped "Why don't they just close, I mean CLOSE the airspace?"
The interviewee said "Airspace is not like a fence, you can't just close the gate!" or similar words.
Oh, I see you used the plural, "media fools". There are so many............
4 posted on 09/11/2001 11:20:06 AM PDT by KirklandJunction
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To: KC_Conspirator
I also heard speculation that those flights were chosen because of the fuel loads. But someone on NBC said that most of the flights were not non-stops, so that they wouldn't necessarily be carrying large amounts of fuel.

I'm not sure what the correct story is at this point.

5 posted on 09/11/2001 11:25:15 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: ChaseR, WH42, ALOHA RONNIE, ouroboros
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6 posted on 09/11/2001 11:27:26 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2
Son, in London, says Heathrow reporting several hi-jackings- Do not have way to confirm,,,,Anyone else heard this?
7 posted on 09/11/2001 11:31:02 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: abigail2
NECAP is no longer the correct name. They are the National Airborn Operations Center (NAOC). The US maintained at least one NECAP aircraft in the air for something like 25 years. A primary mission of the NAOC is for nuclear command and control. They are mission capable at all times so I do not agree that the Prez would not transfer there because of a "reduced state of readiness."
8 posted on 09/11/2001 11:33:08 AM PDT by ironman
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To: KirklandJunction
I heard the same thing from MSNBC about "How can someone just fly a plane into the WTC?" and someone (probably a guest) said "Its a free country".
9 posted on 09/11/2001 11:41:07 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
The plane headed for D.C. that crashed in PA was the biggest plane of the four hijacked. I imagine it was headed to The White House or the Capital.

And I imagine we'll be hearing in the next few days that WE shot it down.

Also, The World Trade Center was suppose to withstand the crash of a 747; hence, the bigger planes.

10 posted on 09/11/2001 11:49:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: independentmind
I'll tell you the reason for the origin of these flights..

Its been known (NBC did a story 6-8 months ago, I cannot remember the exact date of the story) that Logan Airport's security is some of the WORST in the nation. What I want to hear is the explanation as to why three of these flights originated from Boston and how these people smuggled so many terrorists on board.

There is going to be Hell to pay!!

11 posted on 09/11/2001 12:24:57 PM PDT by Fedupwithit
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To: independentmind
I'll tell you the reason for the origin of these flights..

Its been known (NBC did a story 6-8 months ago, I cannot remember the exact date of the story) that Logan Airport's security is some of the WORST in the nation. What I want to hear is the explanation as to why two of these flights originated from Boston and how these people got on board.

There is going to be Hell to pay!!

12 posted on 09/11/2001 12:26:22 PM PDT by Fedupwithit
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13 posted on 09/11/2001 12:29:23 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: independentmind
so that they wouldn't necessarily be carrying large amounts of fuel.

I believe the tanks are always filled to capacity, to keep condensation from forming inside the tanks.

14 posted on 09/11/2001 12:30:23 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Howlin
757 and 767 are smaller, lighter than 747.
Even though smaller, the 757 lifts off with about 11,000 gallons of fuel.
Still, anything that big with a full load of fuel has a lot of punch.
15 posted on 09/11/2001 12:40:34 PM PDT by KirklandJunction
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To: independentmind
could it be that the flights we selected because of departure time & availability rather than fuel levels?
16 posted on 09/11/2001 1:52:18 PM PDT by thinden
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To: snopercod; mach.08; abigail2
Bump.
17 posted on 08/15/2002 6:45:12 AM PDT by First_Salute
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