Property Rights is not just a Western problem

See Article Text | 11 September, 2001 | brityank

[goodieD]

Someone needs to start confiscating every piece of enviromentalist's personal land holdings and give it back to those who have earned it.

[SusanUSA]

Absolute EVIL! Thanks so much for the post. Bookmarked!

[passionfruit]

That would turn them into land owners rights gurus in a hurry!

[mafree]

Bump for property rights.

[SierraWasp]

"by voter implemented no-growth initiatives and opt-in sales of property development rights. I support these measures wholeheartedly, even though I consider myself a conservative. Why? Because even though my new hometown is signifigantly larger than my old one, I have no interest in sitting idly by while it grows into a new Los Angeles."

You may consider yourself a conservative, but you are certainly not a consistent, or considerate conservative IMHO. Your only solution is suffocation and abject fear that the free market in a free republic will not work because of what happened in LA.

Fomenting fear of the marketplace is never the mark of a conservative. It is always the refuge of the class envious, liberal socialist governmental totalitarian through mob-rule democracy and rampant selfish cowardice.

If the market didn't work, LA would still be filling up with white people looking for government defense jobs, instead of fanning out into the Sierra Nevada Range agitating foothill communities with bizzare growth control ballot box extreme measures.

Sorry if I seem opinionated, however, my opinion of your opinion is just as valid as you opinion of your opinion.(grin)

[Dustbunny]

Bump

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Bump!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Thanks for the ping.

[Mmmike]

A great travesty of justice is taking shape, and your post describes it eloquently. My intuition is that environmental policy is molded by its own proponents' nagging philosophical worries (concerning the influence man is able to exert on his surroundings) which they presume to encode in positive law. Seldom if ever do they answer their own questions with positive, nuanced assertions; and so their activity is fundamentally a commandeering of political power in the name of philosophical dilemmas they really should keep to themselves until they can resolve them.

[harpseal]

Let us not forget New England in this complete destruction of property rights many a small harbor has been destroyed by those who want their water views without the smells of the local fishing fleet. Connecticut has enacted laws which even limit the cutting of a tree on one's own land should one happen to live on a senic road.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[Landru]

-BTTT-...

[Fiddlstix]

Thanks for the Ping

[Eustace]

brityank, being from New York You will maybe know what I'm talking about. I remember a story from New York about people owning homes along rivers that had been signed into the "Heritage Site Program" losing their homes.

It's my understanding that the program signed by cities/states (?)federalizes our rivers and gives the federal goverment 5 miles of land on both sides of the river.

In my reading I have found that things done by governments including ours, mimics things done in the past almost like they thumb their noses at our ignorance. Hitler had a Heritage Program also (but I don't know what it involved). I was just wondering if You have knowledge about what happened in New York.

As far as Klamath (which isn't over by any means) these environuts have halted a hiway where I live, because of a butterfly. Someone involved in Klamath said that's how it started there, and that they laughed at first.

The time for laughing is over...................

[brityank]

I remember a story from New York about people owning homes along rivers that had been signed into the "Heritage Site Program" losing their homes.

I was not aware of that, but I found http://www.prfamerica.org/HeritageRiversAreasIndex.html that page in the Property Rights site. More info to dig through. Thanks.

[Eustace]

I'm always happy to share information, and learn.

Peace

[Paul C. Jesup]

Public property is an oxymoron.

Land should either belong in private hands or should be destroyed.

[sneakypete]

The Nature Conservancy offered Mrs. Gherardi a buyout of $7,500 per acre, when other commercial land on Route 111 is selling for $100,000 per acre. She thinks that the Nature Conservancy is “a government fronting agency working in conjunction with the commission.”

The "Nature Conservancy" is one of the biggest con games going. They somehow (bribes) have the power to buy land they desiginate needs "saving from developement" at a lower -than-cheap price because the owner that sells to THEM gets tax breaks that end up being more profitable to him (and his political buddies) that if he had sold the property at fair market value. PLEASE keep in mind that it is you and I who actually pay this bonus-money through our taxes.

The Nature Conservancy bought up a BUNCH of beachfront property in coastal NC a few decades ago. The people who owned this property were WELL connected to NC Dim politics,and the Governor regularry went there to go duck hunting. This whole huge tract of land was owned by tobacco money out of central NC. The alleged reason the Nature Conservancy bought it was to keep it from being developed,and this was the stated public reason for them being able to buy it so cheap. Guess what? 10 years or so went by,and ALL of this land was developed and sold. Strangly enough,there is zero talk about who sold it,or how much they profited from it. There is also no talk about reimbursing tax payers for the money initially furnished to buy it to "preserve nature".

Ya know what? If I wasn't such a trusting fellow,I might even go so far as to suggest the politicians and their rich contributors were all involed in this deal from the get-go. One hand washing the other,with all profiting without having to invest a single dime of their own money.

[jeremiah]

Nature conservancy a front? Politicians getting kickbacks, and specialtreatment? Elected officials becoming rich for looking the other way? Say it ain't so bro. Isn't this the land of the free and the home of the brave?

It seems we are closer to the worlds definition of free(which is not so free after all), and we are not brave enough to live without the guarantee, that the govt will take care of us, because we can't(won't).