PARENTS IN HS SEX ROMP: Wiens under scrutiny of child protection office

Journal News ^ | 9/10/01 | Phil Reisman

[StoneColdGOP]

Whoa... teenage boys and sex. That's a real prescription for naughtiness. Can't have boys having sex on their minds...

[onedoug]

My God!

[doug from upland]

These foolish parents probably thought they were acting cool. My son, at 16, went to a party after a game and paid $2 admission. The kids got wine coolers and beer. He was involved in an accident that caused over $10,000 in damage. Fortunately, not one was injured and he was not drunk. But the beer or wine cooler probably added to the accident. Although I took the parents and homeowner to small claims court, suing for my increased insurance premium for three years, I did not prevail. I was p*ssed at the police for not charging the parents with a crime.

18 year olds can have a stripper. They are adults. But parents cannot allow this at their home with underage kids. What were they thinking?

[KantianBurke]

I don't think the issue is whether its right or wrong that under age teens drank, toked up and did some unsavory things with a stripper. Everyone here has the sense to know that guys that age are into things like that. That said, I've yet to hear any good arguments defending the PARENTS who not only supplied the stripper but also the beer and turned a blind eye to the pot and the other kids who were taking it all in. Let me repeat guys do things like that. Doesn't make it right btw. But to have the boomer parents, who obviously wanted to "be cool," be the ringmasters is messed up and sick!

[Pontiac]

I would take exception to the "fact" that these parents are from the Boomer generation. Would you agree that the Boomers were born between 1945 and 1950? If yes, then that would mean these parents were in their late 30's to early 40's when their QB son was born. I would guess the parents were born between 1955 and 1960 at the earliest. That is not the Boomer generation. I'm tired of the Boomer generation getting blamed for everything. You're off by 10 years or more.

Actually the ‘Baby Boom’ is generally considered (if memory serves) to extend from 1946 to 1967 with the peak birth rate being in 1955. The Baby Boom began with the return of the WW II GI’s and ended when these GI’s stopped having kids. So this couple would most likely be considered “Boomers”. Probably the tail end of the boomer generation, but boomers none the less.

[Sueann]

"the puritanical frenzy sweeping America"

I can't see how protecting young people is taking any of your freedoms away. Parents who allow their children to do anything and call it freedom - are really ignorant of what they are doing to their children. Freedom - real freedom, only comes from responsibility for one's action. Perhaps America should take a good look and see what their type of freedom has brought them. It's not a pretty sight.

[joelmc]

This is just plain wrong.

Having a party for a third-string quarterback?!?!

Oh, and someone mentioned the 1000-year sentence in the road rage case, asking why the guy didn't just get a life sentence. Sentences like this are the only to ensure someone like that never gets out, if life without parole isn't an option. Anything else would mean that the guy would be out in 15-20 years.

[Vigilanteman]

There is reason in your statements. As a youngster, I rebelled against the GOP for the same reason. The country clubbers thumbed their nose at the rank and file who wanted the state's delegates to go to Ronald Reagan in 1976 because "it wasn't proper to disrespect a sitting president"(Ford). The Democrats has a pro-life, morally decent governor who'd had the courage to veto an 18 year old drink bill and fight against a trendy state lottery. They welcomed us aboard. People in the party who held the leftover state offices like tax and insurance commissioner then now monopolize the state's congressional delegation . . . thanks to the Rockerfeller Republicans!

[hobbes1]

Could you let these people see the pic of the stripper in question. Nicole is quite the hottie

One hottie coming up...Just for you Bud.

[NYpeanut]

From reading the drooly responses to your posting, it seems that even on a "conservative values" site, libido trumps decency. Part way through the replies, I began to wonder where I was. I've never seen so many defenders of perverted behavior here before. Sad.

[NYpeanut]

Anybody who wonders why the Republican Party is so divided (and hence, so ineffective) should read the responses to this thread and the other threads occasioned by the stripper story.

Amen to that. There is plenty of clintonesque thinking on this thread and the others. Moral relativity abounds here on this subject.

Trashy parents paying for their kids' sexual gratification? Hey, they're all gonna do it. Hey, I did it when I was 17. Hey, no one got hurt. Hey, I wish I was there. Hey, the stripper isn't a victim, she got paid. Hey, she's a hottie.

[George W. Bush]

Damn how I hate that generation. Not to worry. God is in His heaven. Wait until they find out just how angry He really is!

I never have understood how parents can be so careless with the children of others. Nor do I understand why some parents have to try to be the "hip" parents or why some parents think they need to be their children's friends and no more. It's always a disaster.

[ppaul]

Here we go again - the state interfering with parental authority and guidance!

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Granted, these particular parents are morons. However sending in Child Protective Services at this point in this 17 year-old's life is a waste of everyone's time and money.

[George W. Bush]

But I think any man who considers it a joke for parents to encourage teens to do drugs and consort with prostitutes is exactly that--in the very same way our Eternal Adolescent President was. Yep. A lot of Clintonism here at FR. Some of these Libertarians don't make the connection between the private behavior, the public behavior, and the political agenda.

It's all one thing. Not a menu from which you can select different items.

[George W. Bush]

Parents should set a higher standard -- not wallow in the gutter with young men who obviously haven't learned any self control because their parents were incapable or unwilling to model it. Where I live, the parents would be prosecuted for so much as buying beer for a minor. Their children would probably be shunned.

Funny how the vast majority of the local kids turn out so well when a few basic moral standards are upheld in their communities. I'm hoping we can reverse hard liquor by the drink in the local tavern again soon. I lost some confidence in the community when the town board narrowly voted it in.

The biggest problem in living in the good communities is keeping the people from places like California and Colorado and other liberal havens from discovering it and then moving here to destroy it. But then, we can't even keep anti-tax libertines from masquerading as conservatives here at FR. They're like locusts and far more destructive. Amazingly enough, there is a similar and blind destructiveness common to the libertines and the locusts (or any other destructive insect population). A blind feeding of their appetites without regard to consequences.

[ppaul]

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on the sidelines last week,
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lewd party, cops say.

September 9, 2001 -- The high-school jocks who cavorted with a stripper at a boozy, pot-smoking party in Chappaqua last weekend appear to have dodged punishment despite startling evidence that similar parties are not uncommon in the affluent Westchester County suburbs.

New Castle police are looking into allegations that members of other teams from Horace Greeley HS have been involved in wild, alcohol-drenched parties, said Detective Sgt. James Carrol. Police records also show a number of other investigations into underage parties, including a visit two months ago to the same house that was raided last weekend.

"We know there are parties - after-game parties, end-of-the-season parties, lots of parties," said a Westchester police official, who confirmed Greeley HS was not the only school in the area involved.

In a further development, probers are mulling charges against the stripper who police say committed a lewd sex act in front of members of the Greeley football team at the Chappaqua party last weekend, hosted by the parents of a player.

Police sources said Nicole LaChance, 36, was paid $325 to put on an hourlong show for more than 50 boys and several girls from the school. Cops say LaChance could face charges, including child endangerment or statutory rape, depending on the results of their investigation.

The party hosts, investment banker Robert Wien and his masseuse wife Rochelle - whose son Jeremy is a quarterback on the Greeley HS roster - were charged with endangering the welfare of a child and unlawfully dealing with a child, police said. The couple, scheduled to appear in court again on Sept. 13, face up to a year in prison if convicted.

It is understood 14-members of Greeley's 52-strong Quakers varsity team attended the party to celebrate the end of the preseason training period. Police say charges against any of the teenagers at the party are unlikely while schoolmates says some the cocky jocks involved appeared to be annoyed rather than embarrassed by the attention the incident has sparked.

The team got a finger-waving lecture from the school's principal, Kathy Mason, at training on Thursday, but Mason appeared visibly shaken by the dismissive attitude of some players.

"We're on moral high ground here," Mason insisted to staff members. "I don't think anyone's ever talked to them like that before."

Despite the ongoing police investigation and a week of damaging headlines, all players suited up for the season opener on Friday night, including Jeremy Wien, who made a late appearance off the bench.

Parents and spectators shielded and defended the players. Several abused the media for pursuing the story.

But a former Horace Greeley graduate admitted to a local newspaper that it was traditional for strippers to attend high-school parties in the area.

"I think it's quite harmless . . . just a bit of fun. I think people are overreacting," 1999 Greeley graduate Adam Taylor told the Journal News.

And it's not the first time investigators have become involved in high-school parties in the Westchester area:

* Two arrests were made at the home of an Irvington HS junior on Aug. 4 when a boozy party attended by about 50 students got out of control, despite the boy's parents being in attendance.

* On July 12, police dispersed about 100 high schoolers drinking on a footpath outside the Wien house after a complaint from a neighbor.

* Three adults in Pound Ridge were charged with child endangerment after they hosted a party last year where up to 300 kids paid $5 each to drink down six kegs of beer bought by the adults. Those at the party included students from Greeley and other Westchester high schools.

* Vincent Agnello, who provided the stripper for the Wien bash, said he had provided entertainers for other teams.

"This is not uncommon," Agnello said. "These people just happened to get caught."

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"I think it's quite harmless . . . just a bit of fun. I think people are overreacting"

The crowning achievement of 12 years of government schools. Moral relativism and "tolerenace" run amuck.

[George W. Bush]

I'm having a hard time trying to decide if FR's real conservatives should unite to have all source URL's from New York blocked. New Yorkers here at FR constitute a majority of the liberal/libertine postings.

But then, New Yorkers who call themselves "conservative" are such an outstanding warning to the rest of us of the kind of thinking and advocacy we have to watch out for and exclude from our own states, a heartland that is the remnant of a once-great country.

[Liz]

The crowning achievement of 12 years of government schools.
Moral relativism and "tolerenace" run amuck.

The crowning achievement of tax-funded Planned Parenthood
(teaching moral relativism in YOUR schools everyday from K-12)......a fully fornicating society......

[Liz]

Here we go again - the state interfering with parental authority and guidance!

Yeah, too bad the state has to stick its nose in......(sarcasm off)