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PARENTS IN HS SEX ROMP: Wiens under scrutiny of child protection office
Journal News ^ | 9/10/01 | Phil Reisman

Posted on 09/10/2001 8:20:25 PM PDT by Liz

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To: Dawning Glory
Would you really think theyd let harm come to their child in their presence???

. to hell with their child...what about the 15 year old's there some of them girls...smoking pot and drinking..duh..

121 posted on 09/10/2001 10:27:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
to hell with their child...what about the 15 year old's there some of them girls...smoking pot and drinking..duh..

Who forced alcohol doen their throats and pumped HTC smoke down their lungs? When does personal responsiblity come in to play? The magical day one becomes 18?

122 posted on 09/10/2001 10:29:19 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Dan from Michigan
. 1/2 of these kids go to friends houses to drink beer and watch pornos anyway behind their parents back.

Nonsense. When someone starts throwing inflated figures around (1/2 of these kids -- what kids?), you have to wonder about their motivation.

BTW, exactly how many kids have you parented?

123 posted on 09/10/2001 10:29:34 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Anyone..
I think this issue should be kept between the parents. If the parents of the boys want to press charges...so be it. Let the parents duke it out.

Otherwise the law shouldn't have their nose in it.

124 posted on 09/10/2001 10:29:46 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: VRWC For Truth
Nanny State supporters on the Right

Get a grip. Expecting parents to responsibly parent minor children has nothing to do with the nanny state. Big red herring.

125 posted on 09/10/2001 10:34:22 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Exigence
Have you ever been, or are now, a member of the Communist party. That was really low.

My deepest apolodies to Sen. Joe McCarthy for associating your good name to this respondant.

126 posted on 09/10/2001 10:35:19 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: VRWC For Truth
Some people just won't let anyone else have any fun. The fascists on the far right are as dangerous as those on the left.
maybe that could appear on a banner for each new visitor to fr. well, they'll find out soon enough if they stay!
127 posted on 09/10/2001 10:35:47 PM PDT by AntiTyrant
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To: Exigence
Feel free to respond to any of comments, I'll get back tomorrow, its late here in the EST.
128 posted on 09/10/2001 10:36:36 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Dawning Glory
YES poor judgment but at least no one was hurt !

Define "hurt." Hint: character can be hurt. Premature loss of innocence is a hurt. There are many ways to hurt children. Using your logic, taking lewd pictures of minors wouldn't "hurt" either.

129 posted on 09/10/2001 10:36:39 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: madprof98
AKA the Culture of Death.

Yes I agree, the stripper in this article was doing quite a bit more than just removing her clothes and dancing, she was being paid to perform sexual acts with high school kids. There is something very strange about adults who would want to watch their own son licking a prostitute and use sex toys on her. When the kid gets arrested for rape, they might not think it was all so cute.

130 posted on 09/10/2001 10:38:23 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: sendtoscott
If the other parents want to press charges about what happened with the other kids, that's their decision, not the State's.

Hmmm... so the rule of law is out, eh? Whatever happened to the state representing "the people"?

131 posted on 09/10/2001 10:38:39 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Exigence
Nonsense.

I speak from Experience.

About 70-80(avg turnout) of us all went to field parties and house parties, drank beer, some did some other things as well which I won't go into here, and I'm not admitting to anything other than having some beers there and attending. I didn't drink and drive so I still say to this day that I didn't do anything wrong.

132 posted on 09/10/2001 10:38:54 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: madprof98
your post makes a lot of sense.

.I keep thinking that all these "conservative" patriotic Americans here on this thread defending illegal behavior are supporting a couple and a community that is vastly Democratic, Vastly liberal, as well as very rich and who look down their noses at the likes of people on Free Republic....they are a group of people that have put clintoon and Hilary and Schumer in government...these types of parents have forced their boomer generation immorality on all of us, and here we applaud...

Well guess what...they are also going to take all your little guns away, they will regulate what church you can go to, they will continue to spend your money and your children's while providing every advantage avaliable for any non-white person , native or not, that they feel can give them a voting push.

There will be a price to pay.

133 posted on 09/10/2001 10:39:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Exigence
Whatever happened to the state representing "the people"?

So I guess when the tanks in Waco burned the kids, Reno was representing "the people'.

134 posted on 09/10/2001 10:40:36 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dawning Glory
Im sure these parents wouldnt let anything too outrageous go on..

Since the sex acts weren't too outrageous for you, what would be too outrageous?

135 posted on 09/10/2001 10:41:06 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: dubyaismypresident
When does personal responsiblity come in to play? The magical day one becomes 18?

Here's how it works. At the first sign that someone under 18 is abusing "personal responsibility," the parent removes the same. The ultimate responsibility for someone under the age of majority is the parent... period. No one who doesn't clearly understand that has any business parenting anyone of any age.

136 posted on 09/10/2001 10:44:23 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: KantianBurke
And the 15 yr olds who were drinking beer and doing doobies? How does that fit into your scheme of "freedom?" Dan has a point. They've probably done it before but with the aid of a friend's PARENT?

BINGO. Corruption of a minor. Pretty serious charges. I'm thinking state laws governing "corruption of minors" could also be used in the battle against NEA and liberal school board policies that promote the sexualization of children.

137 posted on 09/10/2001 10:47:02 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: dubyaismypresident
see #108 and remeber it is for the chilren, as said by Janet Reno, Hillary Klinton, Joycelyn Elders, Rosie O'Donell

Not comparable situations, my friend. Nice try.

Additionally, there were many people's children there. If anything, these people were taking the Hillary Clinton line and usurping the parents' right to decide for their own children. Your example supports my position.

138 posted on 09/10/2001 10:47:17 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Exigence
Hmmm... so the rule of law is out, eh? Whatever happened to the state representing "the people"?

They cannot represent "the people" w/o representing individual people, such as the other parents. If the State represents some abstraction (i.e. "the people" ), it represents no one.
139 posted on 09/10/2001 10:48:59 PM PDT by sendtoscott
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To: Exigence
Third, just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it is "right."
that works with 'illegal' and 'wrong' as well, btw. what we basically have in this thread is the opinion of some that strippers are evil, and the opinion of others that they are not. i'll vote with the nots, and add to the mix that anybody who ascribes a natural, significant distinction to the difference between 17 and 18 (beyond mere numbers) is a nut, and most likely a jerk on top of that.
140 posted on 09/10/2001 10:49:00 PM PDT by AntiTyrant
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