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Foreign Students Find US Classes Easier
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Posted on 09/10/2001 1:02:04 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

WASHINGTON - An overwhelming majority - 85 percent - of

foreign-exchange students find their courses in U.S. high schools

easier than back home, according to a survey released Monday.

In addition, 56 percent of foreign teens said American students

spent less time on schoolwork than their foreign counterparts. The

findings also highlight sharp cultural differences: A whopping 67.2

percent of the exchange students said success in sports is more

important at American high schools than at their home schools,

according to the survey by the Brown Center on Educational Policy at

The Brookings Institution.

And, in sharp contrast to many American teens, 73 percent of the

foreign students said they did not have jobs while in school.

``These responses may help explain why high school students in many

Asian and European countries always do well on tests of academic

knowledge,'' said Tom Loveless, director of the Brown Center. ``In a

nutshell, they work harder and care more.''

The results come a few months after a federal report described the

senior year of high school as a ``lost opportunity'' for American

kids, and an international survey showed the math and science scores

of American eighth-graders lag behind their counterparts in developed

countries.

``This reflects the fact that we do not challenge our students

sufficiently,'' Christopher Cross, president of the Council for Basic

Education, said of the survey results. ``We don't have high

expectations for students, and we don't hold them to standards.''

William Schmidt, a Michigan State University expert on math and

science curricula, said a ``shopping-mall mentality'' prevails in U.S.

high schools. ``There are very few required courses, and you have a

lot of kids not taking the very same things that children are required

to study in other countries.''

The lack of rigor in high school coursework, he said, can be traced

to middle schools - where too much time is spent repeating subjects

like arithmetic, while many students in Asia and Europe have moved on

to more challenging subjects like algebra.

``Middle school is an intellectual wasteland,'' Schmidt said. ``By

the time our students enter high school, they can be two years

behind'' their foreign counterparts who will be their competitors in

an increasingly technical world.

Other key findings:

- Nearly 52 percent of foreign students said learning key academic

subjects - math, science, literature and history - is ``very

important'' to students in their home country. But only about 22

percent believe that kind of intellectual development is ``very

important'' to the American students they encountered.

- More than 68 percent of the foreign teens said students in their

countries used high school to prepare for a job, and about 45 percent

believe job preparation is important to American teens. Loveless said

that may reflect a belief among U.S. teens that they will get their

job training in college.

- Math homework is assigned with the same frequency in the United

States and abroad. About 47 percent of exchange students said they got

math homework every day in their U.S. schools, and about 42 percent

reported daily take-home assignments in math in their own countries.

The survey of 368 students, conducted in April and May, marks the

first effort to examine how exchange students view their schooling,

Loveless said. The mean age of the students surveyed was 17.3. The

Brown Center also is polling American high-schoolers who have studied

abroad to get their views of foreign schooling.

The margin of error on most questions in the Brookings poll was

plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Loveless cautioned that the students surveyed may not represent

their countries' student populations. Most foreign-exchange students

are high achievers fluent in English, and probably come from more

affluent households than other students in their home country.

Still, most of the foreign-exchange students attended above-average

schools in the United States, he said.

Loveless said U.S. teens are not to blame for the lack of rigor in

their coursework or their preoccupation with sports. Japan is as

baseball-crazed as the United States, he said, but ``the adults don't

allow athletics to seep into the high school campus.''

``Teen culture is really in the hands of adults. Adults structure

high schools in such a way that sports are emphasized. American

employers hire (teens) for part-time jobs,'' Loveless said. ``We need

to think about holding adults responsible for fixing this situation.''

On the Web:

www.brookings.edu, a link to the Brown Center report on American

education.


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1 posted on 09/10/2001 1:02:04 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
The lack of rigor in high school coursework, he said, can be traced to middle schools - where too much time is spent repeating subjects like arithmetic, while many students in Asia and Europe have moved on to more challenging subjects like algebra.

Not true. It starts in Elementary school and the gap doesn't become noticed until middle school.

Some Asian math topics will be taught later, some earlier, the emphasis is more on mathematic reasoning at an earlier age, less on breadth of subjects at an earlier age.

Probability, negative numbers, coordinate graphing is not taught until the secondary level, Roman Numerals are not taught at all. It does not have the breadth of US math classes, but it has more depth, i.e. it is not "an inch deep and a mile wide". So I guess it depends on what you consider necessary for a "complete" math program.

2 posted on 09/10/2001 1:24:52 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Tai_Chung
It is true that American students must spend time repeating the material more than Asian students. This is because of the way the classes are structured. Since Americans don't learn the material in-depth, they must relearn it over and over again. It's not the students fault, it the curriculm.
3 posted on 09/10/2001 1:33:51 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Tai_Chung
My private-schooled first grader learned about negative numbers last year in kindergarten, and *I* drill him in Roman numerals before he goes to sleep. :)

I don't know about the nuances of curriculum structure, but my sense is that the US system has been slowly lowering its signal-to-noise ratio since WW II, and the slippage becomes apparent when seen by folks coming in from the outside.

I can also share this anecdote: A friend who works at a VERY BIG textbook publishing house told me that one year they just renamed the junior high school history text as the high school text...just like that.

4 posted on 09/10/2001 1:41:23 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: Tai_Chung
We have a lot of foriegn students here in the public schools. Each group tends to have some weird nuances and can be a chanllenge when they start school. Chinese(from China) boys tend to be undisciplined. They don't understand concepts like standing in a line. They have no respect for their mothers at all. Taiwanese kids tend to be better at English and more like American kids. Indian boys question everything. Korean boys will not hestitate to throw a punch.

Generalities but they seem to be universal among the schools.

5 posted on 09/10/2001 1:42:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: NativeNewYorker
Most US students, even from the top 25 American colleges are non-competitive when they study abroad at Oxford, Salamanca and the like.
6 posted on 09/11/2001 8:56:55 AM PDT by a history buff
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