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QUESTION TO THE MEDIA is the Bill of Rights "anti-government" too?
SierraTimes ^
| 09.10.01
| Dorothy Anne Seese
Posted on 09/10/2001 12:04:02 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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Short, sweet, and a bullseye!
To: bang_list
BTTT
To: t-shirt
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To: StriperSniper
The Bill of Rights gives to us, as citizens, certain rights upon which the government may not infringe, and when we assert those rights, you, the media, immediately attach to us the label "anti-government." If the Bill of Rights gives us our rights, and it is still the law of the land, then are you guilty of libel when you label people who invoke such rights as "anti-government"?
I hate to do this, because her heart is in the right place, but the Bill of Rights "gives" us nothing. It merely tells the government what they are NOT ALLOWED TO INFRINGE UPON - our God-given, inalienable rights.
Seemingly small point, but a critical one nevertheless...
To: StriperSniper
Never forget, people who reject God's way, salvation through Jesus Christ, are enslaved by their sin and bondage to demonic influence. They are constantly trying to "convert" others to their enslaved state. Freedom apart from God and his principles is impossible. All of America's problems are derived from either our ignorance or rejection of God and His Word. Ahh, but the good news is that is all about to change.
To: Hobey Baker
Oh boogers, you beat me < g >
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To: GRNelson
But at least I beat YOU ;)
To: StriperSniper
Yes according to the media/gov way of thinking it is!
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posted on
09/10/2001 12:21:13 PM PDT
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t-shirt
To: Hobey Baker
That is an unfortunate choice of words on her part. For general public consumption I would like to see them changed. All but the newest FReepers will recognize that she slipped on that.
Thank you for pointing that out for them.
To: ALL
Let's bump this article for further discussion.
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posted on
09/10/2001 12:24:01 PM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Russell Scott
They are constantly trying to "convert" others to their enslaved state. I have to object to his. I'm an atheist, and I have never attempted to sway someone away from their religion. Some (the ones I call "anti-theists") do, but that's their problem. Much as there are religions that do not proselytize there also (actually the majority) atheists that do not. You don't hear much from us, we don't work for the ACLU.
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posted on
09/10/2001 12:26:56 PM PDT
by
discostu
To: Jefferson Adams
The USA was founded by a buch of people who had just waged a long and hard war against the Crown of England. They had seen a general failure of the Articles of Confederation but they were very much against an all powerful government. The Bill of Rights is therefor inherently anti-government. Thank God for that.
It is generally governments of one stripe or another that have caused much of the needless suffering on this planet.
Stay well - Yorktown
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posted on
09/10/2001 12:46:32 PM PDT
by
harpseal
To: Russell Scott
Never forget, people who reject God's way, salvation through Jesus Christ, are enslaved by their sin and bondage to demonic influence. They are constantly trying to "convert" others to their enslaved state. Freedom apart from God and his principles is impossible. All of America's problems are derived from either our ignorance or rejection of God and His Word. Ahh, but the good news is that is all about to change. Does that mean that I have to give up being either a conservative or an agnostic? Of course not.
How is this suddenly going to change? Will you purge all non-Christians from the right? Thomas Jefferson, David Horowitz, and I would beg to differ.
To: StriperSniper
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed..." The Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.
To: StriperSniper
The bill of rights doesn't give us any rights which we didn't already have. The author needs to read the preamble to the bill of rights. We, the people, gave the government certain rights and responsibilities as enumerated in the constitution. What we didn't give to the government we kept for ourselves. In other words, the federal government is in rebellion against lawful government. The government is anti-government.
To: Russell Scott
All of America's problems are derived from either our ignorance or rejection of God and His Word. Ahh, but the good news is that is all about to change. Glad you see it coming: "La ilaha illa Allah; Mohammed rasul Allah."
That is what you mean, isn't it?
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posted on
09/10/2001 2:05:28 PM PDT
by
Grut
To: Hobey Baker
" Congress shall enact no law regarding establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise therof."
Sounds fairly anti-government to me.
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