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Suffolk may ban guns from public housing
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | September 10, 2001 | SUSIE STOUGHTON

Posted on 09/10/2001 2:16:02 AM PDT by Movemout

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Suffolk may ban guns from public housing
By SUSIE STOUGHTON, The Virginian-Pilot
© September 10, 2001

In a crackdown on gun violence, housing officials are considering banning firearms from the city's five public housing complexes. Suffolk Redevelopment and Housing Authority could review a draft policy by November, after input from residents of the 466 apartment units, said Clarissa E. McAdoo, executive director.

Thelma Hinton, the housing residents' non-voting representative on the SRHA board, says such a ban would violate the residents' rights. Living in public housing shouldn't prevent them from being able to protect themselves, she said.

``I've got to fight for my residents' rights if they want a gun,'' Hinton said.

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SUFFOLK -- Hundreds of city residents could soon face a choice: Forfeit their constitutional right to keep and bear arms, or find another place to live.

In a crackdown on gun violence, housing officials are considering banning firearms from the city's five public housing complexes. Suffolk Redevelopment and Housing Authority could review a draft policy by November, after input from residents of the 466 apartment units, said Clarissa E. McAdoo, executive director.


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Thelma Hinton, the housing residents' non-voting representative on the SRHA board, says such a ban would violate the residents' rights. Living in public housing shouldn't prevent them from being able to protect themselves, she said.

``I've got to fight for my residents' rights if they want a gun,'' Hinton said.

SRHA officials last week also launched a drive to eliminate illegal guns from public housing and Section 8, privately owned rental properties whose rents are subsidized through the housing authority. Both efforts come in response to last month's accidental shooting of a 4-year-old whose 5-year-old brother found a loaded gun in their mother's bedroom at Hoffler Apartments.

The younger child, who was struck in the finger when the gun discharged, was not seriously injured, McAdoo said. Police did not charge the mother, she said.

The incident, however, sparked interest in gun safety.

A newsletter distributed to public housing residents a week later included this warning: ``Guns are not allowed in or on SRHA property under any circumstances.''

The item said a resident's lease would be terminated and criminal charges could be lodged if a resident or guest had a gun on the premises.

Hinton, however, brought her lease to the August board meeting. She said the document does not address possession of guns.

``We should have a policy,'' said Helivi L. Holland, a housing commissioner and an assistant commonwealth's attorney.

What about security guards whose jobs require them to be armed? Hinton asked. ``They can't leave the gun in the car.''

The weapon could be stored in a locker at work, Holland said.

SRHA attorney Jeffrey L. Gardy said any landlord can place restrictions -- such as no animals -- on tenants.

``It's your option whether you lease it or not,'' he said. ``It's not infringing on anybody's rights.''

Leroy Reynolds, who works for Portsmouth Redevelopment and Housing Authority, disagrees.

``They're stepping on some dangerous ground there,'' said Reynolds, PRHA's security and risk management program director.

``The Constitution doesn't give you the right to bear animals,'' he said. ``It does give you the right to bear arms.''

Neither PRHA nor the Norfolk Redevelopment and Housing Authority prohibits residents from having guns, officials of those agencies said. Reynolds said he would be surprised if Suffolk adopted such a ban.

The proposal is ``in the very early, formative stages,'' Gardy said. He has not received anything to review, he said. Trying to protect residents without infringing on their rights is difficult, he said. ``It's hard to hit a happy medium.''

SRHA chairwoman Mary V. Richardson said the board wants to hear how the residents feel. She could not say whether a compromise plan would be considered.

Last week, Commonwealth's Attorney C. Phillips Ferguson spoke at Hoffler Apartments about Suffolk's Exile Virginia program to eliminate illegal guns.

Anyone who possesses a gun after being convicted of a felony, carries a gun onto school property or is caught with a gun and drugs will receive a mandatory prison sentence of up to five years, he said.

Housing officials will distribute refrigerator magnets with that information to all public housing and Section 8 residents.

The magnets will be ``a constant reminder that the illegal possession of firearms in Suffolk will not be tolerated,'' said Diana Klink, community outreach coordinator for the commonwealth's attorney's office.

Since the local Exile program began in March, more than a dozen Exile arrests have been made, Ferguson said.

``We are really working on the educational process,'' Ferguson said.

But his office won't hesitate to prosecute, he said. ``They can either be educated or go to prison.''

Reach Susie Stoughton at 222-5555 or sstought@pilotonline.com


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1 posted on 09/10/2001 2:16:02 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Movemout
Reminds me of my article a few months ago,Why so many felonies.Felony convictions are being handed down for less and lesser offences,it's like a type of gun control.
2 posted on 09/10/2001 2:24:41 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: eastforker
``They can either be educated or go to prison.''

This is the mindset of these people.

3 posted on 09/10/2001 2:31:29 AM PDT by Concentrate
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To: Movemout
SRHA attorney Jeffrey L. Gardy said any landlord can place restrictions -- such as no animals -- on tenants.

``It's your option whether you lease it or not,'' he said. ``It's not infringing on anybody's rights.''

And yet some attorney's still wonder why they have a bad reputation. The BOR doesn't include a section that specifically spells out a person's right to keep and house animals. It does arms. Idiot.

4 posted on 09/10/2001 2:42:22 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: Movemout
housing officials are considering banning firearms from the city's five public housing complexes

Yeah, the criminals will love that.
This is another good reason why inexpensive guns are needed, so poor people can defend themselves.

5 posted on 09/10/2001 2:50:19 AM PDT by RightWinger
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To: bang_list
bang!


6 posted on 09/10/2001 2:58:24 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: eastforker
I don't remember reading your article but I think your observation that felonies charges are becoming more commonplace may have some basis in fact. I read an article yesterday about some guy being charged with felonious dumping. Yes thats right boys and girls. Dumping. Well the fact of the matter is that new laws are added all of the time and I don't see that they are making it easier for me live freer and with less interference by government at any level. They are making it esier to criminalize whomever they want. It is invidious to a healthy society.
7 posted on 09/10/2001 3:01:16 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Movemout
This is expected.

The masters can do anything to you when you're living under their roof.

FMCDH!!

8 posted on 09/10/2001 3:22:28 AM PDT by Wild Game
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To: Movemout
Yes, banning guns will definitely solve the crime problem in the projects. It will be open season on anyone foolish enough to comply by getting rid of their firearms.
9 posted on 09/10/2001 3:40:06 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Movemout
This should work great! Drugs are outlawed and there are no drugs in public housing areas. Violence is illegal and there is none of that either. By all means, take the guns and we can be assured of no further gun violence.
11 posted on 09/10/2001 3:50:28 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: riley1992
I have mixed feelings on this. One part of me is absolutely behind recogonizing their Constitutional rights. This is the "knee-jerk" side. The "thinking" side of me says "Screw them. If they want to enjoy the Constitutional rights of free Americans,let them get out and provide and pay for their OWN housing!As long as they live in "public housing"(taxpayer funded) they are our TENANTS. It's not THEIR home they live in,it's OUR home."

I also don't think they should be allowed to vote as long as they are living off the taxpayer dollar,either. You can rest assured they ONLY vote for socialist politicians who promise them more "freebies".

12 posted on 09/10/2001 4:29:41 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Movemout
>>I read an article yesterday about some guy being charged with felonious dumping.<<

There was (he's served his sentence by now)a man in Pennsylvania serving 5 years in a federal prison for bringing in fill dirt in his own backyard. He bought property that HAD been a local landfill,and wanted to fill a low spot in his backyard so he could pour a cement pad to build a garage. The feds had desiginated his land (a former landfill!) to be "wetlands",so he committed a federal felony when he filled it.

13 posted on 09/10/2001 4:34:10 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Movemout
TRANSLATION:
These people are poor....
therefore they are just simply too stupid to be "trusted by government" to defend themselves and their families with a firearm....

QUESTION:
Why do these same people keep electing liberals that treat them like stupid children?
14 posted on 09/10/2001 4:42:08 AM PDT by cbkaty
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To: sneakypete
if the goverment can ban fire arm ownership in public housing they could ban ownership to anyone who recieves any goverment benifit. including social security.
15 posted on 09/10/2001 4:55:01 AM PDT by Rustynailww
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To: sneakypete
As long as they live in "public housing"(taxpayer funded) they are our TENANTS. It's not THEIR home they live in,it's OUR home."

As a taxpaying citizen, I have no desire to strip anyone of their second amendment rights, regardless of how much I hate the slothness a good deal of these people display.

16 posted on 09/10/2001 5:48:15 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: Rustynailww
>>if the goverment can ban fire arm ownership in public housing they could ban ownership to anyone who recieves any goverment benifit. including social security.<<

Nope,different principle involved. Public housing is OUR housing. It's welfare. I see restricting their freedoms as a way to motivate them into providing for themselves. Besides,if we were to remove their right to vote,Dims would lose a important voting block.

BTW,my own family lived in gooberment-subsidized housing for a year when I was a infant. My father worked,saved his money,and we moved out.

17 posted on 09/10/2001 6:57:29 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Movemout
And we all know that this would stop all gang-banging drug dealers from carrying their stolen Glocks into the housing units. Hey, they know better than to break the law!
18 posted on 09/10/2001 6:57:52 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Movemout
Maybe they could also stop them from voting? Or maybe having jobs as journalists?
19 posted on 09/10/2001 6:59:25 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Movemout
Housing officials will distribute refrigerator magnets with that information to all public housing and Section 8 residents.

The magnets will be ``a constant reminder that the illegal possession of firearms in Suffolk will not be tolerated,'' said Diana Klink, community outreach coordinator for the commonwealth's attorney's office.

Translation: The magnets will be "a constant reminder that the illegal possession of firearms in Suffolk will not be tolerated, n*****s with guns"

Just like the good ol' days, eh Col. Klink?

20 posted on 09/10/2001 8:13:34 AM PDT by Redcloak
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