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To: bryan1276
Finally, I notice that in your latest burst of posting you've left the discussion on Supernova 1987A hanging. As of now, Physicist's #189 is unanswered despite your having replied to me over the intervening days.

You and CDK have a problem with SN1987A. It's 150,000 light years away. We observed the propagation of light from the supernova to reflecting clouds at various distances from the source. What we observed confirms the standard picture of the distances involved and the invariant speed of light over at least the last 150K years. In other words, some huge part of the Large Magellanic Cloud didn't brighten all at once as it might have if light were flying at 11 million times the current speed. There were exactly the expected delays.

This blows a huge hole in the CDK cosmology. Note, for instance, that if you try to pretend the Magellanic Clouds are something smaller and closer than they appear, you create more problems than you answer. Now you have to say what the heck they are and why they look like small galaxies farther off. And now, given that the LMC is so close, you have to explain why the light sphere from that supernova expanded far more slowly than it should have. In other words, you're farther than ever from having a workable theory.

Or, go the other way. Say that the LMC is vastly farther away than standard cosmology would have it. If you move it ridiculously far out, those propagation delays make CDK sense. Now the light was really flying to cover the angular distances involved to those dust clouds as fast as it did. But how can we be seeing that? How did the light get to earth from so far off in so young a universe even with CDK? And what the heck is the LMC now if it's so far off and yet looks exactly like an ordinary wisp of galaxy much, much closer up?

I'd be interested in seeing you deal with 1987A. So far, your posts have reflected a (genuine? feigned?) lack of understanding of the problem posed by those observations of nature. Then you simply stopped answering.

196 posted on 09/18/2001 7:12:11 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Then you simply stopped answering.

Slime. But good-quality slime.

197 posted on 09/19/2001 9:16:01 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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