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Bush Meets With Hastert, Lott To Discuss Automatic Spending Cuts
Associated Press ^ | September 7, 2001 | Sandra Sobieraj

Posted on 09/07/2001 7:16:23 PM PDT by Lady In Blue

Sep 7, 2001

Bush Meets With Hastert, Lott to Discuss Automatic Spending Cuts

By Sandra Sobieraj
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush is considering a Republican proposal that would trigger across-the-board budget cuts next year if spending starts eating into Social Security reserves, congressional and administration officials said Friday.

Hoping to shield himself and his party from political damage during worsening economic times, Bush was meeting Friday with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., and stepping before cameras outside the Oval Office.

White House officials said Bush wanted to express sympathy with workers stung by the economy. He was urging Congress to adopt his budget without exceeding spending goals.

He did not plan to embrace the spending cut proposal Friday, aides said, though White House officials were discussing the idea with GOP aides on Capitol Hill.

Congressional and administration aides said the last-minute huddle was called after the Labor Department reported Friday morning that nation's unemployment rate soared to 4.9 percent in August, the biggest one-month jump in six years. The three men were looking for a way to reassure Americans that Republicans have a plan to revive the economy and work within a balanced budget that shelters the Social Security trust fund.

Bush was seriously considering the lawmakers' proposal to create a new mechanism in the law for triggering automatic across-the-board government spending cuts should a worsening economy force lawmakers to turn to Social Security surpluses to meet the general federal budget. Officials looking to blunt the unemployment news had hoped for an agreement to be announced Friday, but said details were still being worked out midday and an agreement was uncertain.

The officials spoke about the developing deal on condition of anonymity.

Historically, automatic, broadly applied spending cut proposals have received scant support from many Democrats and some Republicans who oppose the reductions that would result in many programs. Because the cuts affect so many areas of government, opponents have little problem organizing a wide range of outside groups to pressure lawmakers to oppose the proposals.

In the past, such plans have usually been riddled with exceptions. Sometimes they would only apply to discretionary spending - for example, most automatically paid benefits are not trimmed. Sometimes, defense spending is exempted.

Earlier Friday, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Bush was open to the across-the-board spending cuts proposed by Hastert and other GOP lawmakers concerned about threats to Social Security.

Meanwhile, Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., emerged from a morning meeting with Bush pleased by the president's assurances.

The two met one day after Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico, the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee for the past two decades, said that with the economy slowing and overall federal surpluses dipping, it might be time to use some of the Social Security funds to pay for other programs.

Gephardt told reporters after speaking with the president: "I'm happy to note that he doesn't seem to agree with Mr. Domenici and (Rep.) Tom Davis, who today were quoted as saying they we needed to go in and start spending Social Security and Medicare trust funds."

Gephardt, D-Mo., also disputed the White House formulation, spoken several times by Bush and his aides in recent days, that Democrats critical of his tax cut really mean to raise taxes.

"I don't know where he gets that. He's - best I can figure out - making it up," Gephardt said. "I haven't said that, and I don't know of other Democrats who have said that. What we are for is a more balanced budget."

Domenici, in remarks Thursday to the Senate budget panel, raised the prospect of spending some of the Social Security surplus. "There is no reason in the world you should look at it for only one purpose, to pay the debt down. ... What's wrong with using it for education" or other purposes, he asked.

He added that in conversations with at least 15 economists, "None of them believe that is good economic policy for America to say we cannot touch those (funds) in time of declining growth."

With both parties looking for ways to avoid tapping into the surplus, Fleischer took one option off the table and said the president was open to another.

Fleischer said Bush will not support spending increases, but did not rule out backing an across-the-board spending cut being considered by GOP lawmakers.

"Under our budget, it is not necessary, but as the president has made clear to Congress, the focus should be on spending," he said.

Analysts agree that using a small part of Social Security's surplus - which is expected to exceed $170 billion next year - would not damage the program's solvency or have any effect on its ability to pay benefits.

But to burnish their images as fiscally responsible decision-makers, politicians of both parties have repeatedly promised in recent years to use Social Security surpluses only to reduce the national debt.

The latest official projections are that for the next few years, almost all that remains of projected federal surpluses comes from Social Security. That has made many analysts doubtful that extra money for items both parties support can be found without dipping into Social Security's surpluses - especially if the economy continues at a crawl.

Domenici told reporters he believes leaders will find a way to avoid siphoning the Social Security surplus for fiscal 2002, which begins Oct. 1.

AP-ES-09-07-01 1428EDT

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1 posted on 09/07/2001 7:16:23 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
My God, I wish there never was a damn Social Security entitlement from the very beginning. It is a monster.
2 posted on 09/07/2001 7:21:25 PM PDT by Galtoid
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To: Lady In Blue
President Bush is considering a Republican proposal that would trigger across-the-board budget cuts next year if spending starts eating into Social Security reserves...

Nothing like taking one of the Democrat's ideas (a trigger), and aiming it right back at them. Instead of the Dems activating a trigger to halt future tax relief, this trigger would end, albeit temporarily, future spending.

3 posted on 09/07/2001 7:38:12 PM PDT by I am still Casey
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To: I am still Casey
Don't you just love it?! I do!
4 posted on 09/07/2001 7:40:25 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: Galtoid
I think it was alright,in the beginning because it was only suppose to be temporary because of the war.It just went on too long - way to long!
5 posted on 09/07/2001 7:41:43 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
No one gives him credit for a brain - sure looks like common sense to me. All should bear the burden in economic slowdown - across the board cuts should be done any time before dipping into Social Security.

There is so much waste in Washington - the only thing that will make them kill the waste is when they have to cut the things that want to spend on.

6 posted on 09/07/2001 7:46:53 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Lady In Blue
I'm sure Hastert is concerned about any cuts in his lunch expenditures...
7 posted on 09/07/2001 7:46:56 PM PDT by doodlebug
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To: I am still Casey
Nothing like taking one of the Democrat's ideas (a trigger), and aiming it right back at them

Yep. The Democrats have really boxed themselves in by harping on not touching the SS surplus. I never have understood their strategy. It gives Bush all the moral authority in the world to reign in spending. Authority that they never afforded Reagan or GHWB.

Gotta love it!

8 posted on 09/07/2001 7:52:40 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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To: Lady In Blue
There will never be a resolution to this situation until all parties in Washington are ready to admit that THERE IS NO SOCIAL(IST) SECURITY TRUST FUND! It is nothing but an obfuscating accounting gimmick which, if it use were tried in private business, would result in prison sentences for the perpetrators.

How much longer can we exist as a nation with a government built more and more on a tissue of half-truths and outright lies?

9 posted on 09/07/2001 7:56:47 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Galtoid
The first thing they might do with Social Security is get rid of the "disability" payments to alcoholics, drug addicts, the obese - and all "afflicted" with self-induced conditions - and children who are coached by their parents to "act crazy" in school.
10 posted on 09/07/2001 7:58:24 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
Reading your mind, I think you think this was pretty clever.
11 posted on 09/07/2001 8:03:26 PM PDT by Hugh Akston
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To: ClancyJ
Exactly! It's common sense,something too rare in D.C. these days!
12 posted on 09/07/2001 8:05:50 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: Morgan's Raider
I think what this country needs,in a big way,is to be educated or re-educated on all facets of the government.If we had any kind of decent media,they would instruct the people.
13 posted on 09/07/2001 8:09:02 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: doodlebug
You can say what you will about Hastert, but most times he gets things done,unlike some of our leaders in the Senate!
14 posted on 09/07/2001 8:09:55 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: doodlebug
aaah, the new policy position of the demoflops: fat jokes about Hastert. I guess the old democrap policy, "Bush is an idiot", isn't working.
15 posted on 09/07/2001 8:12:42 PM PDT by Jodi
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To: Jodi
"..fat jokes about Hastert"

I just think he really, really, really cares about food. That's all. Really.
16 posted on 09/07/2001 8:22:30 PM PDT by doodlebug
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To: Lady In Blue
The latest official projections are that for the next few years, almost all that remains of projected federal surpluses comes from Social Security. That has made many analysts doubtful that extra money for items both parties support can be found without dipping into Social Security's surpluses - especially if the economy continues at a crawl.

Surplus.....Being more than or in excess of what is needed or required.....

When is everyone going to get it? This is the money that was overtaxed because of Xlinton. This is the money we were forced to give to the government that was over and above what was needed. If they dip into the Social Security surplus (which doesn't in actuality exist in the first place as a designated account), they will take away money that was not needed in the first place.

Sheesh. I'm not that smart, and I get this. How come everyone else seems to be fooled by this fraud?

17 posted on 09/07/2001 8:26:58 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: doodlebug
doodlebug - member since September 7th, 2001

Dogs doodle on the rug. Flies like to eat the doodle.

I'd prefer Speaker Hastert's diet to yours. :)

18 posted on 09/07/2001 8:39:45 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: ohioWfan
It is MHO, that the clintonistas want more than anything, for the people of this country to believe that their overtaxation and the subsequent surplus, created the economy.

Rush touched on this today, the democraps want a booming economy. They want people to think, tho, that government largesse creates it, not free enterprise.

19 posted on 09/07/2001 8:43:02 PM PDT by Jodi
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To: anymouse
Gee, is that a typical Texas welcome?
20 posted on 09/07/2001 8:43:05 PM PDT by doodlebug
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