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To: RnMomof7
In Finney's theology, God is not sovereign; man is not a sinner by nature; the atonement is not a true payment for sin; justification by imputation is insulting to reason and morality; the new birth is simply the effect of successful techniques, and revival is a natural result of clever campaigns.

Finney is not merely an Arminian, he is a Pelagian.

13 posted on 09/07/2001 5:14:34 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Finney is adored by the feminized churches of today.)
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To: Matchett-PI
As I explained off the thread to GW,I don't know anything about Finneys Theology..

This was a good sermon...now you may not agree with it,but I promise not to call you a heretic *grin*

14 posted on 09/07/2001 5:22:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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A while back someone sent me the HTML code for typing in a Greek word in ENGLISH and it would produce the actual Greek characters when displayed. Would you please send me this via FR mail I do remember it started with a open followed by the word Font followed by some other stuff Then a close font.

I know this was off subject and personal in nature. I do want to apologize for it. But it was the only way I could get the information I needed

Be blessed

don

15 posted on 09/07/2001 5:22:14 PM PDT by drot
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To: Matchett-PI
Finney is not merely an Arminian, he is a Pelagian.

I thought the terms Arminian and Pelagian meant the the same thing just different time period. Or is it Arminian and Semi-Pelagian the same thing. Could you please explain explain the difference.

16 posted on 09/07/2001 6:39:28 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: Matchett-PI
I certainly don't have any fondness for what Finney did. NO Calvinist does. But if he managed to preach a fairly sound sermon on a particular occasion, I don't lose any sleep over it. If all of Finney's sermons were like this one, we wouldn't have too much to complain over. So I don't think RnMom made a terrible choice here. For this crowd (here at FR), this was a very neutral Finney sermon.

Naturally, he preached other sermons and wrote other things that would provoke a very strong response from any Calvinist.
19 posted on 09/07/2001 6:54:27 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Matchett-PI
Personally, from what I know of them both, I find Finney far more offensive and dangerous than Wesley.

If you anwer RnMom on the subject of Finney, perhaps you could indicate which one is worse from the your perspective of an American Calvinist. I'd be interested to judge how you guage the historical impact of both here in America.
22 posted on 09/07/2001 7:25:54 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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