N. Ireland - IRA's lefty roots still showing

Irish Echo ^ | 7 September 2001 | Jack Holland

[wideawake]

Astounding honesty from the Echo.

It's a well-known fact that the PIRA, RIRA and CIRA are all Marxist and not Catholic organizations.

Too many stupid Irish Catholics in the US, who are in their daily lives God-fearing Catholics and enthusiastic supporters of the free market, insist on supporting Democrats at home and terrorists abroad. My relatives are among this benighted lot and it drives me crazy.

[garyhope]

At the risk of sounding naive or ignorant, would somebody please explain to me (in simple terms) who the various players in N. Ireland are, their beliefs and affilations and what "side" they are on. I don't know who's Catholic and who's Protestant and what they're fighting about. What are Orangemen, the Specials, etc. What's it all about?

[HEFFERNAN2]

Anti-Irish Catholic remarks from you and the poster of this article are fallng on deaf ears...I notice neither one of you posted any articles about the Protestants throwing rocks and bottles at the Catholic Irish chidren trying to go to school this week. Takes a real courageous parasite to throw rocks, bottles and holler obscentities at 4 year olds. You bigots need to find a hole and crawl back in it.

[Norn Iron]

Even the hated RUC has conspired to keep its mouth shut about IRA attacks, fobbing people off with "We are pursuing all leads" when asked about possible IRA links to killings.

The police can only say what they are permitted to say. Policing is not devolved but is handled by London and Dublin civil servants with London playing the main role if agreement cannot be reached.

[Norn Iron]

I've not posted any anti-Catholic remarks and Ive contributed to the discussion on the Ardoyne fracas at Bomb blast outside Belfast school - Policeman hurt as explosive lands near Catholic schoolgirls

It seems your bigotted roots are showing!!

[truth_seeker]

Takes a real courageous parasite to throw rocks, bottles and holler obscentities at 4 year olds.

As if the IRA factions have never used deadly violence against noncombatants? Omagh street bombing scene, 1998? Real IRA?

[Norn Iron]

Try BBC - The Search For Peace. It has quite a bit of general information of the type you are looking for. The search engine Goggle,com is also very useful.

[Norn Iron]

Certainly. There are so many participants in the conflict that it would be impossible to say for sure which action lead to which. A lot of information isn't in the public domain so that also has had an impact.

I think 1966 was a turning point. There was a thaw in 'hostilities' during the mid-60s but the commemoration of the anniversary of the 1916 Easter rising and the reaction to it brought the thaw to a shuddering halt.

Also the thaw was seen as a threat to the two aspirations and people like Hume and Paisley took to the streets. Their street politics and the politics of the times elsewhere produced a lethal cocktail.

[Norn Iron]

You're too late. Richard Haass is packing his bags. See N. Ireland - Bush to send envoy

[Norn Iron]

I thought all was fair in love and war!!!

[Norn Iron]

I think we've had 4 Nobel Peace Prizes in the past 30 years!!

[Norn Iron]

Maybe these quotes will help!!

Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. Friedrich Nietzsche

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche

[Norn Iron]

Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Bill Clinton!!