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To: Dead Corpse
Philosophers have been contemplating the meaning of truth for thousands of years. No one has come up with one over-riding truth that all people can agree on.

It doesn't matter if people agree with it, it just has to be true. For a long time, no one at all thought there was any such place as Pluto. The planet still existed. (You might bring up the controversy over whether Pluto is in fact a planet, but that doesn't effect that fact that Pluto is there. "Planet" is a somewhat arbitrary classification, and you could change it by getting a bunch of scientists to agree. What scientists can't change is the fact that there's a lump of rock circling the Sun in tandem with another lump of rock.)

What I got, for the most part, is that your beliefs fulfill your own personal needs, and that's enough for you. In that case, we're going about this in different ways altogether. A religion is useless to me unless it gives me accurate information about the world external to me. From what you said, it may not matter to you whether or not there's a being out there named Odin. I do care if there's such a person as Jesus.

"Pepsi gives you life" translated into chinese and back again turns into "Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the grave."

That's using certain types of computer programs to do the translating. The Bible has been translated into English by humans, who can tell what the original actually meant.

Try reading the Good news Bible, and then the KJV. Tell me that something doesn't get lost in the translation.

The KJV is the correct one.

I mentioned manuscripts that all agreed with each other. The text contained in those manuscripts is called the Textus Receptus. Two scholars around the last turn of the century decided(based on no evidence I've seen) that the TR was wrong. They then set about to reconstruct what the "original" said based on the handful of deviating texts. Unfortunately for them, on the points where they deviated from the TR their texts agreed with the TR as often as they agreed with each other. Their text is popular with publishers because it's shorter, and for the most part the KJV is the only translation from the Textus Receptus around. They're still wrong, though. There was no manuscript anywhere in the world that agreed with their version until they wrote it, but there were many manuscripts agreeing with each other going as far back we have manuscripts. Quotations from the Bible by early Christian writters are always TR.

Most people of strong faith, feel that others that believe differently are "bad". "Wrong". "Sinners". "Evil".

Guilty as charged. I think you're wrong in the sense that your beliefs are factually incorrect, and I think everyone(which would include you) is bad, evil, and a sinner(hence the need for a savior).

That doesn't mean I want to do anything to you.

183 posted on 09/08/2001 4:42:40 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
How are my beliefs "factually incorrect"? In mine, we gots giants, valkyries, some dude with a big hammer, and another who's missin' an eye.

In yours you got a God nukin' cities, burnin' people in lakes of fire, people commin' back from the dead, an burnin' bushes.

I can easily say that my Gods exist and yours don't. You could assert the reverse. However, neither of us can prove a damn thing. Neither of us will know for sure until we die.

I got mine, you got yours, let's agree to disagree an' maybe someday I'll buy you a beer. ;-)

185 posted on 09/08/2001 9:55:32 PM PDT by Dead Corpse
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