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It was not a necessity. There was a debt to be paid. God could have written off the debt, but because he is just, he wanted the debt paid.

But how could the debt be paid without an offering? With no offering you have a write-off, not a payment. The debt was paid through Jesus' death. I don't see any injustice in that because Jesus was God. So God paid the debt for us out of his own pocket, so to speak. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.

Jesus was also a man. His death and resurrection opened the door for our resurrection following our death.

How could either of these things have happened without Jesus' death?

Reaching way back to Thread 134, post 53:

I am trying to get at what you mean when you say "Jesus was indwelt by the Spirit of God." Would you say that you yourself are "indwelt by the Spirit of God"? Apart from the circumstances of your birth. Is your "indwelling" the same as His?

Is God different than God? Is God's spirit different than God's spirit. Are Father, Son and Holy Spirit different or are they one in the same? Are not Christians called also "sons of God"? If a man call forth three hirelings and give them each an ounce of Gold - to whom did he pay more? And if the three spend the gold on different things, which one was more powerful? Did they not all recieve the same amount of Gold? Did the Gold not Give each of them equal authority? Yet Jesus said "Greater things shall ye do, for I go to the Father." He left and sent His spirit Back.

Here is a Riddle. One becomes two in spirit and flesh, in absence, still two, does spirit make three? Trinity or twain? Remove the Man, yet one remains. Is Trinity three or one in three names. If you don't understand this, how can you know God?

I'm not sure what you are saying in your riddle, you'll have to unwrap it for me.

But I am taking the rest of your response to say that your indwelling is the same as that of Jesus. This I can not let stand without comment.

Jesus was God. (is God, was God, always God)

He was divine.

I am not divine. You are not divine. By saying that Jesus was indwelt by the Holy Spirit in the exact way that all Christians are is to make Jesus not divine.

Or to make all of us divine.

Which is it? Was Jesus not God, or are we all God?