Posted on 09/06/2001 2:23:00 PM PDT by malakhi
The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles) -- Thread 138
Some translations differ on the translation of that last sentence, although the Hebrew says, "He." The Knox translation has "she." The ancient Jewish writer Philo, arguing from a supposed "rigid law of parallelism," maintained that the pronoun should pair with "woman" rather than with "seed," since the opposition in this member of the verse returned to that of the woman and the serpent.
135 Posted on 09/06/2001 13:45:58 PDT by allend
Ge. 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and
between your offspring [Or seed] and hers; he will crush [Or
strike] your head, and you will strike his heel.NIV
B'R 3:15 I will put animosity between you and the woman,
and between your descendant and her descendant;
he will bruise your head and you will bruise his heelTanakh
It appears very clear in both of these.
XeniaSt
Out of the 12 or 15 Epistles,most have agreed there were 7 considered possibly authentic, but there were 7 long versions, and 7 short versions, of those seven, now which are you asking about being forged, the long or the short ones?
Already covered here.
The we have JHavard asking if I got the names of the Protestant scholars from an anti Protestant site and my response here.
Protestant Scholars Named Here
He just won't let it go.
Roman Catholicism, History of
As both its critics and its champions would agree, Roman Catholicism has been the decisive spiritual force in the history of Western Civilization. There are more Roman Catholics in the World than there are believers of any other religious traditionnot merely more Roman Catholics than all other Christians combined, but more Roman Catholics than all Muslims or Buddhists or Hindus.
The papacy is the oldest continuing absolute monarchy in the world. To millions the pope is the infallible interpreter of divine revelation and the vicar of Christ, to others he is the fulfillment of the biblical prophecies about the coming of the Antichrist.
[Ed Note: Author musta knew some FREEPERS]
These incontestable statistical and historical facts suggest that some understanding of Roman Catholicismits history, ins institutional structures, its beliefs and practices, and its place in the worldis an indispensable component of cultural literacy, regardless of how one may answer the ultimate questions of life or death.
[ED NOTE: This explains my huffing and puffing that there are a bunch of literates on this thread]
Without a grasp of what Roman Catholicism stands for, is difficult to make political sense of the settlement of the Germanic tribes in Europe at the end of the Roman Empire, or intellectual sense of Aquinas, or literary sense of the Divine Comedy, or artistic sense of the Gothic cathedrals, or musical sense of many of the compositions of Haydn or Mozart.
At one level, of course, the interpretation of Roman Catholicism is closely related to the interpretation of Christianity as such.
[Ed Note Kill the Church, kill Christianity]
For by its own reading of history, Roman Catholicism began with the very beginnings of the Christian movement. An essential component of the definition of any one of the other branches of Christendom, moreover, is the examination of its relation to Roman Catholicism: how did Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism come into chism? Ect..
Conversely, such questions are essential to the definition of Roman Catholicism itself, even to a definition that adheres to the official view, according to which the Roman Catholic Church has maintained an unbroken continuity since the days of the Apostles, while all other denominations, from the ancient Copts to the latest storefront church, are deviations from it.
[Ed note: Some good forgeries there, eh?]
At least in an inchoate form all the elements of catholicitydoctrine, authority, universality are evident in the New Testament.
[Ed note: some REALLY good forgeries I guess]
[Ed note
Thats all for now]
Anyone up for a little philosophy match?
My Jewish grandmother was a nonconformist, too. To paraphrase Steve Martin, "Those wild and crazy Jewish women!" ;-)
"On observation from something said on the last thread:
Isn't it odd that Christians believe in a God who is Jewish?"
It isn't the least bit odd. The Jews are the chosen people---->chosen for what? Chosen by the Creator to be the vehicle for His self-revelation to the world. Despite the ordinariness of the Jews, and their very human shortcomings God had his way, and the universal Christian faith has penetrated almost every society and culture with the news that the God of the Hebrews is the One true and living God, with the moral and ethical imperatives that accompany that truth. While there are many Jews who played a role in this universalization, Jesus of Nazereth and his immediate followers clearly have had the climactic role.
What's amazing is not that the Christians follow a Jewish God (as if He were a tribal possession), but that there exists such a thing as a Christian anti-semite.
Cut from the article about an excorsism being done on Mother Teresa before she died. This was said by the nun who took her place.
Two questions. Why would they gather at her tomb for morning prayers? How can she be with anyone and spiritually guiding them?
Becky
She's already a Saint. I've never understood what seems to me the Catholic obsession with Official Sainthood, especially praying to the saints. Mother Theresa is wonderful, but in relative terms, compared with Jesus' compassion, she's a hard-hearted piece of granite.
Why would anyone pray less to God and direct their prayers to the saints instead? I sincerely wonder if God isn't "insulted" by all these indirect prayers.
I mean, it's nice to honor those who have lived exemplary lives of faith, but some of my Catholic friends talk incessantly about St. Anthony or St. Jude or St. Christopher etc., etc., etc, but for Jesus, they have not a word, unless it's as an expletive. This is SO very common that I wonder why the Catholic Church doesn't (at least to my limited knowledge) take corrective action.
Becky
Yes it is, and others are often inspired and comforted by their lives and struggles.
This is exactly what I have been asking here for the last two days about the misunderstanding that surrounds the issue of rather or not catholics worship Mary. Everyone here says they don't, but the actions of the church suggest otherwise. If Mary is not to be worshipped why doesn't the church come out ans say so plainly instead of using words like venerate in the catechism, which is very close to the same thing as worship. It is such a common illuison among people that I would think the church would want to clear it up. Since they don't I can only surmise that worshipping Mary is what they intended to begen with but the people here just don't go along with it.
Becky
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