Fox calls Bush "Jorge" (my title)

Reuters ^

[Ben Ficklin]

If Bush does nothing, the Mexicans will go away?

Look at Reality. The Mexicans are here. Would you care to guess how many state economies would collapse if the Mexicans disappeared. What would happen to the price of boneless, skinless chicken breast. Can you honestly say that their presence has no benefit to you?

By the way, when three newbies such as Vorpol Gay Blade, Logic Succioty, And Marine Short Arm Inspector show up to bash Bush, you don't have much credibility.

[ValerieUSA]

Try making some sense - I can't even respond to your insipidness without suffering a cramp.

[ValerieUSA]

Yeow -it's a throbbing cramp that won't go away!

[Rowdee]

Sure sounds like you really care for these illegal aliens.....so long as they vote GOP!

[madrussian]

One more criminal, thank you for your honesty.

Statistics is growing. Illegal immigration advocates = criminals.

[dirtboy]

Illegal immigration advocates = criminals.

You gotta get that old country attitude outta you, madrussian. It is not a crime to expouse a point of view in this country. At least, not yet.

[Rowdee]

But, madrussian.....it's different now, doncha see....there's an "R" approving of the crime.....and this might give them a few more votes!

[Rowdee]

Cute...almost as good as the one I have of he and the Pope...priceless, absolsutely priceless.

[Mercuria]

I firmly believe that if we are to encourage any growth at all...it should be to encourage President Fox to grow towards the mindset of using his position to improve his OWN COUNTRY and to improve the lot of his own countrymen rather than treating us as a cashcow where his citizens can make money to send back to their families...thus alleviating HIM of the responsibility of keeping his election promises of "reform" in government.

We're basically agreeing to "prop up" a tinpot who obviously has no intention of being any different than his Other Party Predecessor.

You have a deep dislike of illegal immigrants 'sneaking' into our country. Heck-NO ONE LIKES THAT.

Then why in the world should we support it?

That is why, as a nation, we need to ENCOURAGE the growth and development of MEXICO while we continue to allow those who search for work (what in the heck is WRONG with THAT?) to find it here, as LONG as we have the jobs.

When has America NOT encouraged the growth and development of Mexico? I'm not sitting around in my pad hoping Mexico gets flushed down a sewer.

But President Fox stated last year, during his campaign, that he intends to be the President of Mexicans not only in his own country, BUT HERE AS WELL. How can he be the President of Mexicans who become citizens of the United States? He sure as hell can't get THEIR votes...unless they have the same problems there as we had in Garden Grove, California a few years ago. (But of course, one country's problem is another country's boon, eh?)

Has President Fox stated yet how he intends to improve the lot of Mexicans by leading the charge for a more responsible and less corrupt MEXICAN government? If so, it must have slipped past me. And if he's reforming his government now, I've heard nothing about it.

He seems to be more enamored about talking about what WE have to do to help HIM out.

I repeat...Mexico is NOT Somalia. It is not a vast expansive wasteland of desert without any resources whatsoever.

If anyone is starving there, it is because their government is not interested in divesting themselves of any control in order to promote freedoms in its country for its own citizens.

Reforming a government does not mean encouraging people to go somewhere else for a better life.

And we should not be supporting this notion.

[madrussian]

It's my moral evaluation of someone who says they are ready to commit a crime. Any problem with that? Where do you stand on this?

[Mercuria]

The difference is WHO you tell the person to bite. ;^)

Hehehehe! If you think I'm gonna tell anyone around here to bite ME...you're foolin' yerself!

[dirtboy]

It's my moral evaluation of someone who says they are ready to commit a crime. Any problem with that? Where do you stand on this?

I stand on the side of the First Amendment. Since you said Illegal immigration advocates = criminals, it seems you don't grasp that concept yet. Maybe you should go back to whereever you came from since you aren't assimilating well. /sarcasm

[madrussian]

In case you missed the post that I replied to, it was #124. My calling someone criminal is based on their professed readyness to commit a crime, namely crossing the border illegally, and not how they view illegal immigration.

[dirtboy]

My calling someone criminal is based on their professed readyness to commit a crime, namely crossing the border illegally, and not how they view illegal immigration.

Uh, advocate doesn't mean that. Try choosing your words more carefully...

[Mercuria]

I don't suppose we have lurkers who have become newbie registrants on FR here because they're conservatives who are getting sick and tired of Dubya pandering to Mexico and Fox's blustering demands?

Don't knock newbies.

Just who the hell are we...the Cabots and the Lodges?

LOL!

[anniegetyourgun]

There are very few additional "R" votes to be had in the Hispanic population than in the last election and the administration knows it.

[independentmind]

They are burden on the society, no matter how many poetic false analogies with legal immigrants you spout.

You mean like this poetical false analogy? (BTW, I see I am not the only one protesting on this thread.)

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates
Shall stand A mighty woman with a torch,
Whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,
And her name Mother of Exiles.

From her beacon-hand glows world-wide welcome;
Her mild eyes command the air-bridged harbor
That twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!"
Cries she with silent lips.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

--Emma Lazarus

It would help your case if you explained in more detail why you object to illegal immigration. Is it mostly because it's illegal? If so, one would have to examine the relationship between justice and law. I personally have a tough time calling an illegal immigrant a criminal.

Is it because most illegals are Mexican? Do you have cultural concerns about their assimilation? Or do you think that they are primarily an economic burden on taxpayers?